HOME FORUM RULES CONTACT
     
   
   

Go Back   CLASS RACER FORUM > Class Racer Forums > Stock and Super Stock

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-01-2011, 02:06 PM   #1
Billy Nees
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: On a hilltop in Pa.
Posts: 4,487
Likes: 3,588
Liked 7,687 Times in 1,732 Posts
Default Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!

[QUOTE=Dwight Southerland;266857

The tech items you mentioned concerning engine building procedures and choices are exactly applicable ALL THE TIME TO EVERY COMBINATION. (I prefer a moly top ring, however.)[/QUOTE]

Cast piston, "tight" wall clearence, No real HP, Moly is too much wall tension for me. (IMHO)
__________________
Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS

I'm not spending 100K to win 2K
Billy Nees is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2011, 08:21 PM   #2
Dwight Southerland
VIP Member
 
Dwight Southerland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything.
Posts: 1,999
Likes: 64
Liked 773 Times in 192 Posts
Default Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees View Post
Cast piston, "tight" wall clearence, No real HP, Moly is too much wall tension for me. (IMHO)
Slice and dice.

The carb is the area of focus on the 273 2-bbl MoPar. One of the first stockers I ever had anything to do with was Bob Ayres' "Grog" '66 Q/SA car in 1969-70.
Dwight Southerland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-01-2011, 11:00 PM   #3
Capri
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 171
Likes: 0
Liked 27 Times in 14 Posts
Cool Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!

Mark, I am not sure if that particular combination will work too well..........
Capri is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 04:30 AM   #4
GTX JOHN
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Boulder City, Nevada 89005
Posts: 2,732
Likes: 2,797
Liked 2,476 Times in 697 Posts
Default Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!

JimR: Paul knows the 273 way better than I do.....I believe different year 2
BRL have different CFM and I just do not know which is which. I have always done better with the 4 BRL combos especially the Thermoquad and Q Jet stuff.
GTX JOHN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 08:12 AM   #5
Billy Nees
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: On a hilltop in Pa.
Posts: 4,487
Likes: 3,588
Liked 7,687 Times in 1,732 Posts
Default Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!

Good morning! Ready for another "Dime Rocket"launch?
1981-82 Camaro, Malibu, Monte Carlo with 2V 267/150.
I can't believe this one hasn't been done ever! It gives away some cam and valve size to the 262 combo that we all know works but it also gets back 15 HP! Down side would have to be getting cars light enough to run U and it's probably stuck there. It would probably even work with the 7.5 rear (4.56 best ratio) and a short slick which would be lighter and cheaper. Sorry Dwight, this one's auto only. It actually has a bigger carb than the 75 262.
Just one more comparo, there were a couple of good running 229 V6s around so we know that they work, the 267 is rated 2 HP less than the V6!
__________________
Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS

I'm not spending 100K to win 2K
Billy Nees is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 08:50 AM   #6
Bob Bender
VIP Member
 
Bob Bender's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,733
Likes: 1,599
Liked 459 Times in 90 Posts
Default Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!

Hey Billy, how about a 4 /140 Vega ??
__________________
Bob Bender 144 O/SA
2010-2012 National Record Holder
Bob Bender is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 09:40 AM   #7
Bobby Zlatkin
Member
 
Bobby Zlatkin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Mills River, NC
Posts: 417
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!

Now this is a fun thread.

Much better than the ones with all the pissing & moaning.

Any good undiscovered AMC combos out there?
__________________
Bobby & Norene Zlatkin L/SA
Bobby Zlatkin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 09:43 AM   #8
Dwight Southerland
VIP Member
 
Dwight Southerland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything.
Posts: 1,999
Likes: 64
Liked 773 Times in 192 Posts
Default Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Nees View Post
1981-82 Camaro, Malibu, Monte Carlo with 2V 267/150.
It actually has a bigger carb than the 75 262.
I have always wondered about that one, BIlly. Does the 1.375" throttle bore front-half-of-a-Quadrajet carb used on the 267 actually flow more than the 1.686" throttle bore conventional Rochester 2-bbl on the 262?

My dime in the pot today may stretch the limit because it is EFI, but it has proven potential.

96-99 Jeep Grand Cherokee 242/190-175/170 MPI
2WD of course! One of the best flowing cylinder heads offered on a pushrod American I6, lots of blueprinted compression, more than adequate camshaft. The offroad guys have developed lots of stuff for this engine and the knowledge base is broad and deep. The throttle body flows over 450 cfm according to Chrysler and there are several "tuneup" controllers available that are affordable. AMC Torqueflites bolt up and some years used Dana 44 or AMC 20 rear ends.

There is a racer in Div 1 (I cannot remember his name) who runs this same engine in a late 80s Comanche pickup and the later engines are even better. Several superceded parts should be listed in the tech bulletins that cover intake systems and the cylinder head that would possibly be even better than the current listings.

This is an R, T, or U car depending on year and model and you could even squeek a 5-speed into the 96 model.

We're up to $.20 in the pot now!
Dwight Southerland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 10:32 AM   #9
Billy Nees
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: On a hilltop in Pa.
Posts: 4,487
Likes: 3,588
Liked 7,687 Times in 1,732 Posts
Default Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!

75 262 uses a 1.09 venturi 2g. 76 uses 1.18 venturi carb. 267 uses the big 1.218 venturi dual jet. 1.18 2g flows about 320 cfm, big dual jet about 300 but it is more difficult to make work.
__________________
Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS

I'm not spending 100K to win 2K
Billy Nees is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2011, 11:10 AM   #10
Todd Boyer
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Saint John NB Canada
Posts: 561
Likes: 30
Liked 6 Times in 5 Posts
Default Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland View Post
I have always wondered about that one, BIlly. Does the 1.375" throttle bore front-half-of-a-Quadrajet carb used on the 267 actually flow more than the 1.686" throttle bore conventional Rochester 2-bbl on the 262?

My dime in the pot today may stretch the limit because it is EFI, but it has proven potential.

96-99 Jeep Grand Cherokee 242/190-175/170 MPI
2WD of course! One of the best flowing cylinder heads offered on a pushrod American I6, lots of blueprinted compression, more than adequate camshaft. The offroad guys have developed lots of stuff for this engine and the knowledge base is broad and deep. The throttle body flows over 450 cfm according to Chrysler and there are several "tuneup" controllers available that are affordable. AMC Torqueflites bolt up and some years used Dana 44 or AMC 20 rear ends.

There is a racer in Div 1 (I cannot remember his name) who runs this same engine in a late 80s Comanche pickup and the later engines are even better. Several superceded parts should be listed in the tech bulletins that cover intake systems and the cylinder head that would possibly be even better than the current listings.

This is an R, T, or U car depending on year and model and you could even squeek a 5-speed into the 96 model.

We're up to $.20 in the pot now!
The Division 1 racer who runs this combo is Bob Salemi. I believe Bob got IHRA to allow factory roller tip rockers on this engine also.

Last edited by Todd Boyer; 07-02-2011 at 11:26 AM. Reason: Added material
Todd Boyer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.