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Old 07-05-2011, 08:31 AM   #1
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Default Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!

Todd - The 318 2-bbl is rated at 185 in Stock, 230 in SS in 1969. Look at the bottom of the engine column that has one asterisk (*) to see the power rating factor.
When NHRA defactored this engine back in '05, they hit every engine in every year from 1967 thru 1982. Because there are so many years this engine combination was produced, it would behoove somebody interested in racing it to research all the specs for every year and the bodies you can use. Slight advantages may be found in all those intake manifolds and carburetors. I will tell you that the cylinder head selection is basically the same for all years and that I could not find any camshaft advantages.
If you already have a '69 Dart, it probably has as much potential as any other combination. You didn't say which body style you have, but a GT hardtop has a weight break of 16.01 and will make it an O-P-Q car, which would be able to get away from the more populated 15 and 16 lb classes. I also think the engine will be more capable of producing competitive torque than hp, which would favor the heavier combo.
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:33 AM   #2
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Default A note about the Chevy 305

Although I targeted the Camaro and Firebird combinations for the late 70s Chevy 305, one of the reasons I have been "pushing" this engine for such a long time is that it is available in so many bodies during those production years. Look at full size Chevrolets, Pontiacs, Buicks, and Oldsmobiles for applications. There are even '76-'77 Chevelles and Novas that make U/SA, if that is interesting to you. Cutlasses, LeMans and a variety on mid-sized Buicks used that engine at various times. Lots of possibilities!
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Todd - The 318 2-bbl is rated at 185 in Stock, 230 in SS in 1969. Look at the bottom of the engine column that has one asterisk (*) to see the power rating factor.
When NHRA defactored this engine back in '05, they hit every engine in every year from 1967 thru 1982. Because there are so many years this engine combination was produced, it would behoove somebody interested in racing it to research all the specs for every year and the bodies you can use. Slight advantages may be found in all those intake manifolds and carburetors. I will tell you that the cylinder head selection is basically the same for all years and that I could not find any camshaft advantages.
If you already have a '69 Dart, it probably has as much potential as any other combination. You didn't say which body style you have, but a GT hardtop has a weight break of 16.01 and will make it an O-P-Q car, which would be able to get away from the more populated 15 and 16 lb classes. I also think the engine will be more capable of producing competitive torque than hp, which would favor the heavier combo.
Thanks Dwight, I don't read the sheets enough ...... I see the factors now. I do have a '69 Dart which will ultimately have a 340 for E-F automatic, but I'm thinking a 318 may be a good way to get the car into class racing on the (relatively) cheap. I'm thinking the 318 won't make enough power to hurt itself anyway, so I may get away with a stock-ish short block ....
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Actually, Ronnie, the 318 2-bbl at 185 is one of those "Why doesn't somebody do that?" combinations for me. I know everyboy complains that the carb is too small, but the '65 273 with the same specs is rated at 176. Surely 45 cubic inches is worth 9 hp!
Great thread guys!
You've answered my question on what to do with the 318 2bbl Volare Wagon,or the 79 slant 6 4spd 2dr Volare and all the spare parts in the back corner of the shop!
Our son is showing interest in racing and either one with an auto would appear to be somewhat competitive and affordable class racing starter car for him.
Does anybody know if a scattershield was ever made for the slant 6?
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Does anybody know if a scattershield was ever made for the slant 6?
Not required on a 4 or 6 cylinder. The approved flywheel and clutch is, though.

I'd love to see a Super Six , 4 speed in V/Stock.
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Not required on a 4 or 6 cylinder. The approved flywheel and clutch is, though.

I'd love to see a Super Six , 4 speed in V/Stock.

I knew it wasn't required Mark, I was just thinking if there were any floating around it would be nice to get a hold of one for added strength and safety.

I can't help but think that a 4spd 2-bbl Super Six could be competitive in U or V, question is could it be done on a budget and live?? I have a bunch of B-body 8 3/4 stuff that would bolt in and a couple of 833 A-body 4spds(one Liberty) that are also a direct bolt in, you would have to live with the ratio but I think they would survive ok behind a 2900lb "buzzin half dozen" if the clutch was right. It would be fun to play with since I have several of these cars and engines floating around..lol!
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Default Re: Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!

" Does anybody know if a scattershield was ever made for the slant 6?"

You have to use a adapter plate and a small block bellhousing.
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Actually, Ronnie, the 318 2-bbl at 185 is one of those "Why doesn't somebody do that?" combinations for me. I know everyboy complains that the carb is too small, but the '65 273 with the same specs is rated at 176. Surely 45 cubic inches is worth 9 hp!
Looks like this engine is availablle in more than one year
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Looks like this engine is availablle in more than one year
1967 thru 1981 to be exact.
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For those of you who missed the "fireworks".
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