Some "Dime Rockets" for the 4TH!

[Billy Nees]

I just got an e-mail from one of my "old racer buds" and he wants me to post a combo that he says we "missed".
82-84 Camaro/Firebird 173/135
Yeah it's small and it's a 2v but what a 2v! 800 Q-jet cut in half with 1 pri and 1 sec means 400 cfm no matter how you flow it.
Real nice cylinder head with biggish valves for a little motor (1.60/1.30).
.347/.394 cam, not a lot of compression
200 turbo
This one would test your scrounging skills and our budget but I think it could be done cheap to run under the index and built up on as funds come up.
There is one of these "screaming" around D-2 so they will go fast.
I think the key to doing this one on our budget is to find a Dana-44 "GM Service Package" bolt in rear. I've bought and sold a couple of them and the most I've paid for one is $100 (but good luck!). Don't confuse them with the "australian" rear, these look like a Dana.
Parts are available right to maybe squeak it under our budget cap.

[Robert Simpson]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

I just got an e-mail from one of my "old racer buds" and he wants me to post a combo that he says we "missed".
82-84 Camaro/Firebird 173/135
Yeah it's small and it's a 2v but what a 2v! 800 Q-jet cut in half with 1 pri and 1 sec means 400 cfm no matter how you flow it.
Real nice cylinder head with biggish valves for a little motor (1.60/1.30).
.347/.394 cam, not a lot of compression
200 turbo
This one would test your scrounging skills and our budget but I think it could be done cheap to run under the index and built up on as funds come up.
There is one of these "screaming" around D-2 so they will go fast.
I think the key to doing this one on our budget is to find a Dana-44 "GM Service Package" bolt in rear. I've bought and sold a couple of them and the most I've paid for one is $100 (but good luck!). Don't confuse them with the "australian" rear, these look like a Dana.
Parts are available right to maybe squeak it under our budget cap.

I have run that car in D2, I believe his name was Griffin. I can tell you that is one very FAST car. I spoke with him for a while and he worked on the car for some time. Then he got hooked up with Mike Saye and we all know the rest. He is a good guy, hard worker and a good racer. A couple years ago when he set the record at Valdosta he said that he still had other things to try but Mike told him to save that for a latter date.LOL... We have a couple very quick "V" cars here in D2.

Great posts I have learned allot.

[Dwight Southerland]

That's a great FWD combination, available from 1980-1985 in a standard version and a high perf version with bigger valves, better heads and more camshaft. Joe Moore raced a Citation way back when in the elate '80s, and ran fast easily even then. These engines also were available in the 1982-1984 Firebirds. The high perf engine was available in 1983-84 Firebird SEs with a 5-speed.

[Bob Pagano]

V/SA Norman Griffis Jr., Johnston SC, '84 Fireb 14.742 15.50 -0.758

[Robert Simpson]

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano

V/SA Norman Griffis Jr., Johnston SC, '84 Fireb 14.742 15.50 -0.758

That is the man!! I have seen him go quicker than that...Very Good running car!

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

That's a great FWD combination, available from 1980-1985 in a standard version and a high perf version with bigger valves, better heads and more camshaft. Joe Moore raced a Citation way back when in the elate '80s, and ran fast easily even then. These engines also were available in the 1982-1984 Firebirds. The high perf engine was available in 1983-84 Firebird SEs with a 5-speed.

Yeah ,that little motor will haul a**! 15.30 @ 89 in a Citation with stock HO long block, street and strip cam, stock converter and stock 3.33 final drive, and home made headers (Ya hear me, Gary H?).
The HO heads came with a factory 4 angle valve job. That was always fun in teardown.
I always thought it would run in a RWD car with real gears and converter.

[Dennis P Chapman]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Yeah ,that little motor will haul a**! 15.30 @ 89 in a Citation with stock HO long block, street and strip cam, stock converter and stock 3.33 final drive, and home made headers (Ya hear me, Gary H?).
The HO heads came with a factory 4 angle valve job. That was always fun in teardown.
I always thought it would run in a RWD car with real gears and converter.

Mark
What ever happen to your citation.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Dennis P Chapman

Mark
What ever happen to your citation.

I sold it to Ron Jeffries from Fla. He gave be some cash, his Gators winning Firebird for collateral, and promised to make payments on the balance. He made a few, then disappeared off the face of the earth. I sold off the stuff I had and got the rest of my money that way. I think he was working on an oil rig in La. at the time . It's probably rusted away down to nothing down in The Bayou somewhere.
If I ever find it , I'll go and pick it up...I still have the title!

[Dwight Southerland]

A FWD killer combo with this engine is the 1986 Cadillac Cimmaron - PFI, all the HO stuff and 130 hp.

[bill dedman]

Has the '66 full-size Ford with the 240 inline six ever been considered? It has some appealing specs, I think.

150 HP factor (OEM gross rating,) 1.787"/1.566" valves, long rod motor (6.7",) 12 port head, cam specs: .366/.400 lift, and fits the V Stock class (24# pounds per horsepower,) almost perfectly.

It comes with the all synchro 3-speed manual, or a C-4.

Dunno if it has the 9" or an 8" rear; probably the latter.

Dunno about that 1-bbl carb, though.

Might be difficult to find, but should be an easy (and cheap) build.