Mobil 1 oil

[BlueOval Ralph]

The postig on their site with different blends is very interesting when you get to the Porsche and Harley blends with all the addiatives they require,Mobil updates this site every year. They just updated 07-05-11


QUOTE=james schaechter;269530][/QUOTE]

Sorry, I should have clarified for you Blue Oval. My reference about Mobil 1 being made cheaper was not a response to your link at all. It was a comment made to me from a friend who is an oil engineer and not a racer. I asked him about Mobil one several years ago. ( prior to the zddp thing too) He said that when Mobil 1 started pushing the higher volume sales through chains like Walmart, there was pressure to keep the cost down while maintaining the quality. He told me it was over engineered for it's application, so there was no real down side for street use at the time. I just figured it was finally pushing it for my application. Results will vary. LOL.[/QUOTE]

[Jim Parsons]

Jim S. I agree with you completely regarding Mobil’s attempts to mass market by reducing the additive package. I too was also told by one of our lubricating consultants that the additives are where the real cost is and Mobil has experimented to reduce in an attempt to get the price down. This is supported he said by the numerous versions/ formulas they have offered for Mobil-1 over the last 10 years; new improved, special formula, etc. He also stated at one time Corvette, Porsche, Ferrari was considering taking them off the recommended list but they reformulated back up to meet their requirements.
Based on our testing the best buy for racing oil presently is the Brad Penn, old Kendal stuff. It can be a little hard to get and they don’t have a wide offering of viscosities but dollar per ounce of lubrication it’s hard to beat.

If your oil works then don't change , however be aware that the formula my change over time in this highly compatative market so if you start having issues don't rule the oil out.

My 2 cents

[BobUnkefer]

Question....

Why not use the oil of choice (in this case Mobil 1) with an additive that contains the zinc and other materials that the epa has forced the manufacturers to take out.
I know Lucas makes it in a 16 oz bottle, as do others.

Just asking, 'cause I KNOW there are many on here that have researched thoroughly.

Unk

PS, Jim, isn't it time for some BBQ????

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by BobUnkefer

Question....

Why not use the oil of choice (in this case Mobil 1) with an additive that contains the zinc and other materials that the epa has forced the manufacturers to take out.
I know Lucas makes it in a 16 oz bottle, as do others.

Just asking, 'cause I KNOW there are many on here that have researched thoroughly.

Unk

PS, Jim, isn't it time for some BBQ????

Just because an additive is packaged and labeled does not mean it is compatible with all oils. Differences in base stocks, and various additive packages, especially detergent packages, could prevent your additive from being effective, and or reduce the effectiveness of the additive package in the oil itself. Further, the additive may never even effectively blend with the oil, and thus be completely useless, and have no effect at all.

While I'm not at all convinced we need to be spending $16 for a quart of oil, or that we're getting our money's worth when we do, I'm even less convinced that there are many, if any, lubrication engineers among us, who should be blending our our oil packages.

[BobUnkefer]

Alan,

Interesting comments and, I'll admit, certainly not an avenue that I had thought of.

Appreciate the input, thank you!

Unk

[Adger Smith]

Alan has hit the nail on the head.
There is also another issue with some additives: oil filter.
Is it compatible with the enzimes that hold the paper in your oil filter together or does the paper filter it all out?
Quite a few years ago, As a Dodge diesel owner, I got a warning about using Fram filters. Seems the enzimes in the filter didn't like the diesel fuel mixed with the oil and the paper would come apart and stop up the jets that spray oil in the piston/cyl wall.
Sometimes my customers ask me if I like XXXX added to the oil. When I have no experience with XXXX I ask them if they have ever mixed it with the oil they use and see if it settles out or will stay mixed. Or I ask: is that the stuff I found sticking to the bottom of your oil pan? I always suggest pouring any additive into a partial bottle of oil and mixing before adding it to the engine.
I sell a bottle of Comp with each FT engine and suggest it be mixed with a partial qt. of oil and added just before starting the engine.

[Ed Wright]

Surely nobody would just dump a bottle of additive in by it's self.

[trmnatr]

I use Valvoline Non Synthetic oils such as VR1 and NSL oils. As to Synthetic I have used Royal Purple.

As of late last year, I have been involved in 4-5 circle track engines, which the blocks were filled with Hardblok so my first thing was it has to have an oil cooler. Well, With the oils they were running it was not needed and you would be surprised who's bottles they fill (Some in this thread)

http://www.schaefferoil.com/

[Reed Granrt]

I just removed a customers engine 350 SBc 255hp from the dyno. We broke it in on Joe Gibbs BR oil. After 10 pulls (he had a few problems especially with the Quadrajet) he changed the oil to Schaeffer oil(rep lives near here) and we saw a couple problems with aeration. Customers engine so I did not get to play. He was a little upset but dont know what he will do, but he picked engine up this morning. Just another input
reed

[rubnsracn]

It appears that the “Mobil 1” part of the discussion in this thread (its veered off course a few times) has been centered around Mobil 1 “Street” oil. Does anyone have any experience with Mobil 1’s “Racing” oil?

I currently use Mobil 1 Extended Performance 10W-30, in a sbf. Apart to freshen a few times, but I keep throwin’ the bearings back in it. Like out of the box, not a mark on ‘em – 275 passes.