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[RJDUDEK]

Originally Posted by cammer427

I know a lot of famous street racers from NY/NJ ended up buying famous race cars to race professionally themselves, but I'm not sure how many of these cars actually saw time on the street. I'm fairly certain Tab Talmadge's '65 A/FX 427 SOHC Mustang he purchased from Dyno Don saw a lot of big money street action. Other cars that may have been raced on the street during the early-mid-'70s: Levi Holmes purchased Bill Blanding's 1969 "MiMi" Camaro, Tab Talmadge purchased Dyno Don's 1965 A/FX 427 SOHC Mustang, James & Will Smallwood purchased two ex-Sox & Martin cars (were they just "shop" cars, built and sold by S&M, I wonder?) which were a 1969 "Notchback" car and a '72 Barracuda, Willie "Cam Rod" (sp?) Campbell purchased Hubert Platt's (Platt & Yates) '70 Maverick, "Fast Earl" Mitchell's '69 Camaro was possibly owned by Wally Booth before he purchased it (the engine was at least Booth-Arons-built).

I had a long -time friend that was very close to Earl..and yes that was Booth's car..I was in Paterson the day the hauler showed up with it. That car had some history. And prol kept Booth in "green"..long after the fact..better than when he campaigned it.!

[Paul Ceasrine]

Hopefully someone will get it correct.

The quarter-million dollar race.
1969,,,,,,,,

The Mutt Brothers (ex S-K Dart)
426 Hemi 4-speed (SS/B)
re-painted black

vs.

Super John 1969 Camaro,,,,,
427 w/tunnel ram,,,an A/MP car.
painted white with red

[mike natoli]

I worked for Walter Pfeiffer in the mid 70's Preiffers Automotive who races "Pfeiffers Puffer" 40 Willys and also ran a fast Anglia hilborne injected smallblock in both I think they were c & b gassers. He told us a story that Brodleib Motors did get a Hemi car and they wrecked it right after taking it off the car carrier into a pole on Franklin ave in Woodmere. I'm not quite sure what happened the story gets a little sketchy and the car suddenly dissappeared... they did not know how to tell the Old man Ted Brodleib they also had a Super cars Drag clinic out of that dealer also.

[Hemi Moose]

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine

Hopefully someone will get it correct.

The quarter-million dollar race.
1969,,,,,,,,

The Mutt Brothers (ex S-K Dart)
426 Hemi 4-speed (SS/B)
re-painted black

vs.

Super John 1969 Camaro,,,,,
427 w/tunnel ram,,,an A/MP car.
painted white with red

I find it hard to believe that someone was thinking of lining up a $250,000 street race, I thought you said that there were no big money street races back then and didn't you say earlier that it was all just internet hype. So are any of these stories true about some of these so called big dollar street races then? I don't know what to believe anymore! Sure would like to here about some other street races or stories from other cities too.

[Casey Miles]

I was there on the Conduit, when there were races for 10k or better many times. I heard that Paul Gant raced for $160k in one race, but I wasn't there for that one. Paul Gant was a true street racer, when he got the break, he would have his door open, making like he was looking for something, and would leave. The other car never knew what hit him, because if you got the break the the other car didn't leave, it was still a race and you had to pay.
Does anyone remember a Firebird with Pontiac power making a killing, that car was very fast and always got a spot.

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

[Paul Ceasrine]

Moose,

That's the Magazine Article that said it was a 'Quarter-Million Dollar Race',,,in late-1968,,,,,,,,,,

I was just getting the specifics correct,,,,as
some say it was in late-1968, or early-1969 or 1970.

It definitely wasn't 1968, as S & K still had the Hemi Dart.
They didn't let ithe Hemi Dart go until early-mid 1969. Right after they got their 69' AMX Super/Stocker

And it wasn't 1970, because the Hemi Dart still was in SS/B.

Did anybody actually see that race between Ron Lyle and
Super John....????

pc

[FINESPLINE]

Paul, As far as ' Super John ' is concerned, was his name John Sandoval ? As this person ran out of South Brooklyn and had extremely fast cars in that era. Did run high dollar races !
Another big dollar racers were Eddy ( eyes ) & Freddie Leyte from South Ozone Park and Richmond Hill.----------John

[Paul Ceasrine]

Finespline,,,,,,

Super John McFadden
from NYC, New York
one of the Top Black AHRA S/S Drivers in the U.S.A.

Ran a Dick Harrell prepared 69' Camaro
427 cast iron block, with a tunnel ram, w/Carter carburetors.

Car was red and white,,,,,,,,Dick Harrell lettered on door center.
Tunnel ram was a tall unit,,,,,w/rear vent opening,
Early style unit.

The car was a 10.90 car for A/MP in 1969,
but eventually hit 10.25 in 1970.

His car was the challenger against the Mutt Brothers (John and Ron Lyle)
for the supposed quarter-million-dollar/quarter-mile.

That was the street amount of money bet on the one-time race,,,,,
supposedly,,,,,,

If 3000 people attended, and the betting crowd was 50/50,
that means 1500 X 2 race spectators each bet about $75...
Its more than possible,,,,,,,,,

Story goes,,,,,,,,
Super John got the holeshot, and pulled a 1-foot
high, 30 foot wheelie.
Half-way down the Boulevard the Camaro had about a 2-car lead.

Once Ron hit 3rd gear, the Hemi Dart opened up and quickly gobbled up
the distance, and went flying by the Camaro,,,,,,,,winning the race by
a good 2-cars.

Estimates were, of the Dart going about 10.70 @ 130 MPH.
All in SS/B trim,,,,,,,,,

pc