Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown'

Bobby Zlatkin · 08-02-2011, 01:51 PM

Yes, Bernie Agaman. I drew a blank on that.

I'm sure that had a lot to do with NHRA finally allowing Corvettes to use solid axles.

We had a customer with a '79 stock Corvette that we installed a crate LS6 into (You used to be able to buy them in the late '80's for around $2,500). Turbo 350 trans, stock torque converter & 3.55 gears. Every couple of weeks he'd bring by his lastest half shaft failure, that he'd twisted like a pretzel, to show us. Of course he drove it like an animal.

Rich Biebel · 08-02-2011, 02:05 PM

Ralph used to dig thru the class guide book looking for combos that sat right on the class weight break.....

The Chevelle was an example......and it had some favorable engine specs..... and I think the LS-6's still do....

I can't recall ever seeing an open chamber head with the CC's they are listed at form the factory.....

( We machined a number of sets for Ralph some years after the Chevelle where I worked)

Those early days of SS racing were great

Geerhead55 · 08-02-2011, 03:27 PM

I wonder how long Bernie ran that Corvette? I recall seeing it at the 1975 NHRA World Finals at Ontario Motor Speedway in California, so I know he ran it for a few seasons. It was an impressive piece alright.
Danny Durham

Jess Suter · 08-02-2011, 03:34 PM

So, who drove the superbird since Jack drove a A Cuda at Indy?

FINESPLINE · 08-02-2011, 07:55 PM

I believe another Corvette out of the Truppi-Kling barn was driven by Claude Urevig. May have been the same 71.

Bob Pagano · 08-02-2011, 08:24 PM

Claude,s car diff car, Bernie's car went to TN

Bob Pagano · 08-02-2011, 08:32 PM

The Werst car was there to put Ray out in class so the Mopars would get the class, that car red lit to keep from going to tare down because it had a bougs engine. This was well documented in a story a couple of years ago.

Dennis P Chapman · 08-02-2011, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano

Claude,s car diff car, Bernie's car went to TN

Bob
Didn't Claudes car go to canada?

Robert Simpson · 08-03-2011, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Pagano

Claude,s car diff car, Bernie's car went to TN

I believe that Bernie's car went to Butch Williams and then it went to Brandon Wilkinson in KY? I believe that is it. I think it is the BA car not the AA car.

BadBanana · 08-04-2011, 10:51 PM

Ray's Chevelle was a great class car. Of course, that weight brake later got put into SS/FA and the 427 Camaro's became Chevy's entry in SS/EA,
Ray was a good friend, as well as the whole Truppi-Kling group, Ralph Truppi, who I considered a best friend, past a couple of years ago, and I didn't find out about it until the Gators in 2010.
I first met them, Ralph, Tommy Kling and Ray when they ran in F/S class against the original Bad Banana, owned by Ted Hartman (which I drove). They had a 58 Chevy 348 that ran in the class and we ran against them and Gere Stahl, in his 56 Chevy from Cordia Chev. in East Haddem, CT in 1964 when we set the class record. Ralph, Tommy and ray then built a car just like the Bad Banana and called it the terrible Tangerine.
Those were the greatest days for Stock ans Super Stock in my opinion.
Dave Colbert

08-02-2011, 01:51 PM	#1
Bobby Zlatkin Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mills River, NC Posts: 417 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown' Yes, Bernie Agaman. I drew a blank on that. I'm sure that had a lot to do with NHRA finally allowing Corvettes to use solid axles. We had a customer with a '79 stock Corvette that we installed a crate LS6 into (You used to be able to buy them in the late '80's for around $2,500). Turbo 350 trans, stock torque converter & 3.55 gears. Every couple of weeks he'd bring by his lastest half shaft failure, that he'd twisted like a pretzel, to show us. Of course he drove it like an animal. __________________ Bobby & Norene Zlatkin L/SA

08-02-2011, 02:05 PM	#2
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,315 Likes: 25 Liked 544 Times in 213 Posts	Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown' Ralph used to dig thru the class guide book looking for combos that sat right on the class weight break..... The Chevelle was an example......and it had some favorable engine specs..... and I think the LS-6's still do.... I can't recall ever seeing an open chamber head with the CC's they are listed at form the factory..... ( We machined a number of sets for Ralph some years after the Chevelle where I worked) Those early days of SS racing were great __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Stock 147R

08-02-2011, 03:27 PM	#3
Geerhead55 VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Tacoma, Washington Posts: 1,632 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown' I wonder how long Bernie ran that Corvette? I recall seeing it at the 1975 NHRA World Finals at Ontario Motor Speedway in California, so I know he ran it for a few seasons. It was an impressive piece alright. Danny Durham

08-02-2011, 03:34 PM	#4
Jess Suter Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 36 Likes: 7 Liked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown' So, who drove the superbird since Jack drove a A Cuda at Indy? __________________ Jess Suter 7305 Stock/SS Duster "life is not a rehearsal"

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FINESPLINE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Island of high taxes, N.Y. Posts: 541 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown' I believe another Corvette out of the Truppi-Kling barn was driven by Claude Urevig. May have been the same 71.

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Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 241 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown' Claude,s car diff car, Bernie's car went to TN __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

08-02-2011, 08:32 PM	#7
Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 241 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown' The Werst car was there to put Ray out in class so the Mopars would get the class, that car red lit to keep from going to tare down because it had a bougs engine. This was well documented in a story a couple of years ago. __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

08-04-2011, 10:51 PM	#10
BadBanana Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 76 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown' Ray's Chevelle was a great class car. Of course, that weight brake later got put into SS/FA and the 427 Camaro's became Chevy's entry in SS/EA, Ray was a good friend, as well as the whole Truppi-Kling group, Ralph Truppi, who I considered a best friend, past a couple of years ago, and I didn't find out about it until the Gators in 2010. I first met them, Ralph, Tommy Kling and Ray when they ran in F/S class against the original Bad Banana, owned by Ted Hartman (which I drove). They had a 58 Chevy 348 that ran in the class and we ran against them and Gere Stahl, in his 56 Chevy from Cordia Chev. in East Haddem, CT in 1964 when we set the class record. Ralph, Tommy and ray then built a car just like the Bad Banana and called it the terrible Tangerine. Those were the greatest days for Stock ans Super Stock in my opinion. Dave Colbert

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