Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown'

Pvt Parts · 08-06-2011, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

I dont think many knew the car was bogus at that time. I only heard about it when I was at the York nostalgia show a few years ago when Jack was there. Maybe it was BS and maybe it was not??

Was this the same year that Richard Petty got caught with a big motor???

X-TECH MAN · 08-06-2011, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pvt Parts

Was this the same year that Richard Petty got caught with a big motor???

I had heard the story at York, Pa. about 4 or 5 years ago. Then read a magazine article maybe 3 years ago on the same car.

Paul Ceasrine · 08-06-2011, 11:29 AM

Did the Jack Werst car get its 'final preperation' at Knopf Plymouth
in Philadelphia,,,,,,,,before Indy 1970.

Didn't Knopf Plymouth have a secret 'skunkworks program' going on
back then,,,,,,,,

pc

Todd Boyer · 08-06-2011, 08:10 PM

The article on the Super Bird was published in Mopar Action a couple of years back. It states that Chrysler figured the Chevelle was a cheater car, so they just built the cheater 'Bird to take it out ....

NewHemi · 08-06-2011, 08:38 PM

That was way back when Chrysler really had a racing program.

They need to get some of 70s racers to tell them how to get cars into more than just two classes in Stock. They sure dont seem to want to listen to me.

Not your Dad's racing program any more... Too bad, because the could do it without spending very much money, and they could get a lot more press....

Thanks for all of the information guys, trips down memory lane are a fun walk..

David
The New Hemi Guy

Hemi Moose · 08-07-2011, 06:05 PM

Here's the "Thorn In Mopars Guys Side", does anyone here know how many races Ray Allen won during the time he raced this Chevelle SS convertible.

Hemi Moose · 08-07-2011, 06:22 PM

I wonder how many races these two had together, Dick Landy vs Ray Allen, and did they go hunting for each other. This was Dick Landy's 70 Hemi Charger R/T.

Dan Bennett · 08-07-2011, 06:27 PM

As I remember, the amount of races that car won is surprising because it's really not that many. Allen won a bunch of the high profile races and the car became famous, though I'll never forget how it looked when it launched.

Now that I'm seeing various pictures of the car, some probably dumb questions are coming to mind.

Allen is listed as "driver". Who actually owned the car when it was being raced? Allen? Briggs? Truppi?

Is that really a fiber optic light monitor I see on the front fender in the last shot you posted?

How did T-K make that kind of horsepower with that ridiculous flat intake manifold? The story of why those intakes were on the LS6s is pretty interesting in itself.

08-06-2011, 11:29 AM	#3
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown' Did the Jack Werst car get its 'final preperation' at Knopf Plymouth in Philadelphia,,,,,,,,before Indy 1970. Didn't Knopf Plymouth have a secret 'skunkworks program' going on back then,,,,,,,, pc

08-06-2011, 08:10 PM	#4
Todd Boyer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Saint John NB Canada Posts: 561 Likes: 30 Liked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown' The article on the Super Bird was published in Mopar Action a couple of years back. It states that Chrysler figured the Chevelle was a cheater car, so they just built the cheater 'Bird to take it out ....

08-06-2011, 08:38 PM	#5
NewHemi Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 472 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown' That was way back when Chrysler really had a racing program. They need to get some of 70s racers to tell them how to get cars into more than just two classes in Stock. They sure dont seem to want to listen to me. Not your Dad's racing program any more... Too bad, because the could do it without spending very much money, and they could get a lot more press.... Thanks for all of the information guys, trips down memory lane are a fun walk.. David The New Hemi Guy Last edited by NewHemi; 08-06-2011 at 08:41 PM.

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Hemi Moose VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,824 Likes: 0 Liked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown' Here's the "Thorn In Mopars Guys Side", does anyone here know how many races Ray Allen won during the time he raced this Chevelle SS convertible.

08-07-2011, 06:22 PM	#7
Hemi Moose VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,824 Likes: 0 Liked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown' I wonder how many races these two had together, Dick Landy vs Ray Allen, and did they go hunting for each other. This was Dick Landy's 70 Hemi Charger R/T. Last edited by Hemi Moose; 08-07-2011 at 06:29 PM.

08-07-2011, 06:27 PM	#8
Dan Bennett Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 439 Likes: 853 Liked 595 Times in 136 Posts	Re: Ray Allen versus Jack Werst '1970 SS/EA Showdown' As I remember, the amount of races that car won is surprising because it's really not that many. Allen won a bunch of the high profile races and the car became famous, though I'll never forget how it looked when it launched. Now that I'm seeing various pictures of the car, some probably dumb questions are coming to mind. Allen is listed as "driver". Who actually owned the car when it was being raced? Allen? Briggs? Truppi? Is that really a fiber optic light monitor I see on the front fender in the last shot you posted? How did T-K make that kind of horsepower with that ridiculous flat intake manifold? The story of why those intakes were on the LS6s is pretty interesting in itself.

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