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Old 10-10-2011, 01:06 AM   #1
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Jeff explained it perfectly. The cars are available and affordable. The combinations are sorted out. You can go buy anything you want or need, for a reasonable price, without even having to search for it. They look good, they hold their value well. There's a wide variety of combinations to fit dozens of classes and budgets. You can run anything from a 230/140 6 cylinder PowerGlide to a 427/430 4 speed in a 69 Camaro.

It's pretty much evolution. The most effective, efficient, available, affordable, adaptable, and successful cars are going to be the most popular.

The first generation Camaro literally has an entire industry built around it, you can literally go buy the parts to build a brand new car, all you need is the front subframe, and any 1st generation F-body subframe, or even one from a 68-74 X-body, will work. For the small block and the big block, you can buy anything you need to build the engine, most of it brand new.
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Old 10-10-2011, 01:49 AM   #2
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Jeff explained it perfectly. The cars are available and affordable. The combinations are sorted out. You can go buy anything you want or need, for a reasonable price, without even having to search for it. They look good, they hold their value well. There's a wide variety of combinations to fit dozens of classes and budgets. You can run anything from a 230/140 6 cylinder PowerGlide to a 427/430 4 speed in a 69 Camaro.

It's pretty much evolution. The most effective, efficient, available, affordable, adaptable, and successful cars are going to be the most popular.

The first generation Camaro literally has an entire industry built around it, you can literally go buy the parts to build a brand new car, all you need is the front subframe, and any 1st generation F-body subframe, or even one from a 68-74 X-body, will work. For the small block and the big block, you can buy anything you need to build the engine, most of it brand new.
I know that everything you say is true, Alan.

All I was doing was pointing out that as tempting as that is, IF I had the money to build and campaign a present-day Stocker, a '69 Camaro would be the LAST car I would consider for these reasons:

1. Who wants to run a car that everybody else has? Where is the individuality? As attractive as these cars are, even given all the MANY, and VIABLE reasons you describe, I think for my own satisfaction, I'd try something else.

2. I can't imagine that, as long as these cars have been the "darlings" of the "stars" of Stock Eliminator (everybody from Joe Sorensen, Dan Fletcher and Bobby DeArmond,) that ~I~ would ever be able to come within 4 or 5 tenths of those guys, if I lived to be 110... (I'm 72, now.)

3. The appeal of a "Bob Shaw" car (and, I'm not claiming I could ever come up with anything nearly as effective as his Caddy or his 4-cyl turbo 'Stang) is overwhelming to ME... and, it would give me a lot of grins, when I was going to sleep at night. Can't see a '69 Camaro doing that for me...

4. When I built my sedan delivery, I don't think there were but three or four like it, in the country. It was a pretty unique concept, at the time (within a few years, they were like FLIES...) I enjoyed the "notoriety," at the time, of having something truly different. (Helped that I'd had three gassers with hydros, before...)
Guess I never got over it... and maybe, when I decided to build this current car, I chose an oddball combo (high-boost, Mopar slant six.)

5. I truly believe that variety is good for the sport. Maybe I'm wrong... maybe it doesn't matter a whit (Nobody watches Stock Eliminator, anyway, do they? Just ask ESPN...)
Having 27-percent virtually-identical cars coming to the line in the first round doesn't look like much variety, to me... IMHO, not a good thing...

These are just my musings... the ramblings of a too-wordy, Internet gadfly...

Thanks for listening.
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