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Old 10-16-2011, 01:04 PM   #1
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[QUOTE=Andrew Hill;288105]Everyone except the Carey Bales. Apparently that car was one of the first few built, and the spec on the piston dome was changed after the motor was built. It still has the original pistons, so the dome was quite a bit too big. QUOTE]

So an engine that came stock from Chrysler with original pistons will not pass tech?

Oh I forgot, those were not real cars. Looks like regular production cars that you would buy new at a dealer are not legal to race in Stock. Now how wrong is that? And what does that say for the future of Stock?
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:14 PM   #2
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Andrew I think you have a good set of heads. How can you complain about CJ's you just beat one in the class final at columbus and now you just took the record. In the words of your dad you must be a PIG.

I was told in April of this year at the NC nationals from two different tech men that all runs at national open count towards AHFS.
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Old 10-16-2011, 07:05 PM   #3
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Congratulations to Matt Antrobius.He has a picture of the trophy on his facebook page,so I have to assume he won.Maybe the results will be on DRC tomorrow!
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Old 10-16-2011, 08:28 PM   #4
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We left the track after third round, so I have no more to post regarding rounds, sorry.
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Old 10-16-2011, 10:21 PM   #5
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Congrats Matt Antrobius! He beat Chris Stephenson in the final of stock. Chris beat Alan Kastle in the semis, and Matt had the bye.

In SS, I believe Scott Stillings beat Dan Olding in the final, although it may be the opposite.

Charlie, obviously I have good heads, I just don't have as good of a platform to start with as the 440 hp, or is it 412 hp, oh that's right, 325 hp mustang. Oh and in case you didn't know, I didn't get the MPH record, so I guess I'm not making as much power as the CJ, just doing a better job of getting it to the ground.
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Old 10-18-2011, 09:21 PM   #6
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[QUOTE=Jason;288122][QUOTE=Andrew Hill;288105]Everyone except the Carey Bales. Apparently that car was one of the first few built, and the spec on the piston dome was changed after the motor was built. It still has the original pistons, so the dome was quite a bit too big. QUOTE]

So an engine that came stock from Chrysler with original pistons will not pass tech?

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Ummm, let see now. He blew it up/broke it, in Indy a few weeks before, and now he is running again. You surely can't be saying that the engine hasn't been apart and then back together at a minimum... I am not saying that the pistons were replaced, but certainly they were all of the way out of the engine, and then back in. And apparently nobody bothered to check dome height.

And as I said before, the dome height issue/requirement was NEVER a secret.

So was the illegal dome height on his pistons an innocent mistake, or was it an intentional attempt to gain an advantage?

Only he knows which it is.

But everyone else plays by the rules (We were torn down and found legal, including dome height...) and the rules are the rules, so why shouldn't he be held responsible?

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Old 10-18-2011, 09:48 PM   #7
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Does the rule book say anything about height? It just says same type dome of dish as an OEM piston. That is an OEM piston, right? If it cc's let it go.
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It is a stock 5.7 Drag Pak Piston.

And dome height is one the specs on it.

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Old 10-18-2011, 10:21 PM   #9
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John ,As for fuel check , maybe they need to get sum new equipment , I don,t know but i just doe,st seem right....... Sorry i ran out of C12 ... Nice effort with the Buick!!!! dennis
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Old 10-18-2011, 10:25 PM   #10
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Conway, All (most ?) engine builders use the NHRA spec sheet. Here it is for the 5.7 Hemi.
H.P. Disp. Deck Cl. Piston Height Vol Valves Cam Lift Springs Gasket

305 345 .000 Dome .210 16.4cc 2100/1600 602/569 Beehive .026


Even factory pistons can be manipulated, hence the nhra spec for dome height. There have been many DQs because the oem part did not meet the nhra specs. Ask Charlie Bob or me.lol Was Bales within spec for dome height? If he was, he is good. If he wasn't, he is out. About as black and white as you can get. Just my 2 cents worth. Keith Lynch 5035
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