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Old 10-25-2011, 09:11 AM   #1
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trust me....ill be around. not to buyback tho. i don't care what the purse is. it's about principle. period. stick with the friday night lights if you wanna buy a race.
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Old 10-25-2011, 06:42 PM   #2
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TW,
Why are you so down on Re-Entry/BB? Give me a real reason besides "It's the Principal"
If you want to go back to the way it was "Back in the day" , we all would be racing for trophys with a flag drop. Efverything evolves to a higher level and Buybacks may be what it takes for IHRA to survive.
Nothing "Friday nightlights" about the 2 sportsman spectacular races IHRA put on this year. Caliber of competition and quality of equipment was awesome.
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Old 10-25-2011, 06:54 PM   #3
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TW,
Why are you so down on Re-Entry/BB? Give me a real reason besides "It's the Principal"
If you want to go back to the way it was "Back in the day" , we all would be racing for trophys with a flag drop. Efverything evolves to a higher level and Buybacks may be what it takes for IHRA to survive.
Nothing "Friday nightlights" about the 2 sportsman spectacular races IHRA put on this year. Caliber of competition and quality of equipment was awesome.
Chip
Ok Chip ,
Time to sign off so you can get on the radio show ( Speed Scene Live Radio Show) tonite...... Don't forget to mention your ole buddy here........
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Old 10-25-2011, 07:08 PM   #4
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I am not a fan of buybacks either, but I still attended the event to support IHRA and have some fun racing as well. I do not understand why "NHRA" racers do not attend IHRA events even though the races are trying to address some of the complaints of racers.

This was a rebuilding/testing year for me, unfortunately I did not attend many IHRA events and stayed local. In 2012 I will be out full tilt and look forward to what IHRA has to offer next.
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Old 10-26-2011, 05:44 PM   #5
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I am as loyal now as I have ever been...and am committing to at least a full division 9 schedule in 12. I understand that monetary issues drive decisions in the main office, but when that bleeds down to the grandstands, it takes it to a different light. I am not upset with the amount of competition ((especially in Chip's department...ur still one of the greats!!!) I don't know...it just feels like it cheapens the feeling of grabbing that hardware in the winner's circle. I did come from an era of Trophies and big overblown glossy pictures on the wall...the purses and contingency offset the cost to go racing; and that's all that mattered. I was doing what I love to do with the people that I love doing it with. I probably am making mountains out of molehills, I know. It's just one of those issues that rubbed me the wrong way. I love my IHRA president, and my sanctioning body. And I know at crunchtime, tough calls have to be made. I just hope we don't forget where we started.
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Old 10-26-2011, 06:56 PM   #6
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Is there anyone that specifically did NOT attend the IHRA race BECAUSE they had buybacks,and that was the PRIMARY reason for not attending??

Just curious.

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Old 10-28-2011, 06:29 PM   #7
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Is there anyone that specifically did NOT attend the IHRA race BECAUSE they had buybacks,and that was the PRIMARY reason for not attending??

Just curious.
I can't speak for this IHRA race, because I don't have a class legal car. However, I used to really enjoy going to the IHRA bracket team finals, until 2005. That year, there were b*ybacks in the main event of the bracket finals I was in. I haven't been back since, and yes, b*ybacks are definitely the exact reason I stopped going.

When I e-mailed IHRA about it never happening again, the response I got was that yes, if the situation were the same, b*ybacks would again be used. The "situation" was that all the pre-main event gambler's races had been rained out.

The complete and utter distaste for the concept of buying back into a race you've already been beaten in cannot be explained...unless you already get it. I believe it's hurt bracket racing, to it's core, but I doubt any of those folks who have left because of it are likely to suddenly start showing up on any message boards to say that. Personally, I don't care what the payouts are. That didn't get me into the sport and it certainly isn't keeping me in. Take care. Tom Worthington.
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I had the privilege of being at both Sportsman Spectacular events, and I thought it was very cool that racers in all seven sportsman classes had a chance to take home a $5k check and contingencies. Everyone that re-entered still had to win a round before advancing to round 2. ...and if I remember right, while a re-entered racer could win the big money in their class (or much better than average payday for R/U, semi's or quarter's), a re-entered winner would not earn a spot in the TOC.
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TW,
Thanks. I always said we race for Jackets hats and trophys because the money is spent before we get it.LOL
You are so right about not forgetting where we came from.
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I am as loyal now as I have ever been...and am committing to at least a full division 9 schedule in 12. I understand that monetary issues drive decisions in the main office, but when that bleeds down to the grandstands, it takes it to a different light. I am not upset with the amount of competition ((especially in Chip's department...ur still one of the greats!!!) I don't know...it just feels like it cheapens the feeling of grabbing that hardware in the winner's circle. I did come from an era of Trophies and big overblown glossy pictures on the wall...the purses and contingency offset the cost to go racing; and that's all that mattered. I was doing what I love to do with the people that I love doing it with. I probably am making mountains out of molehills, I know. It's just one of those issues that rubbed me the wrong way. I love my IHRA president, and my sanctioning body. And I know at crunchtime, tough calls have to be made. I just hope we don't forget where we started.
Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion and I probably should keep mine to myself sometimes and I can sympathize with with you about buybacks but these are different times now and I guess we have to adapt to them. I wasn't a fan of it but I used the reentry at MIR and it didn't feel so bad after I got myself back in the race. As long as they just use this at these particular events I don't believe it will be such a bad thing and when they get the car counts up maybe they will do away with them.
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