SBC push rod checker?

[Dwight Southerland]

I'm surprised that no one has meentioned grinding the rocker arm tip. . .
If roller rockers are accepted next year, this discussion expands arithmetically.

[eddie c]

Long ago stocker racer here, I still like the idea of putting my mechanical
knowledge or lack there of to the test. Years back my co engine builder
and I were trying to work thru some of these exact same problems.
We had a couple of coffee cans of CHEVY SB rocker arms and were
testing them on a base engine. Then we started to grind them and we were told by some smarter, older guys that it wasnt a good idea to grind rocker arms because the rocker tips were only hardened a few thousands into the metal and once you got past that point you would chew through them very quickly,So unfortunately we stopped working in that area,. Anyway this subject lends itself to a real cause and effect
senario. I dont think I have to worry about setting a record and being in a tear down barn anytime soon,but I think one of the main subjects of this thread is, how do the tech guys check cam lift and is there consistency from division to division. If I was currently racing that is something that I
would like to get established so when I built my motor during the off season ,I could build it and check my cam lift just like the tech inspectors were going to do in the new season. ed

[Reed Granrt]

Originally Posted by Dwight Southerland

I'm surprised that no one has meentioned grinding the rocker arm tip. . .
If roller rockers are accepted next year, this discussion expands arithmetically.

Dwight
Grinding a rocker tip has been done several times by such people as Smokey. And yes I have been following the thread on roller rockers. I know this may be the easiest and cheapest way out for many racers BUT I have a big big problem with this. I get upset when I hear people talk about the amount of technology and development that has been put into Pro Stock, Top Fuel and all our pro classes. But do you know what I feel is the most technological advanced class in racing today. NASCAR was included in that short list but no longer. Stock Eliminator is the most advanced. Think about how many people and for how many years have racers and engine builders been tweaking on stock parts to make things more frictionless , more advanced than they were ever intended to be. Sure the cost went with that but this is what has made the class what it is today. Look at how much science has just been discussed on rocker arms here on this forum and now we want to take that advancement all away and turn it over to vendors and let them just build us a set of roller rockers. Look at how many parts we have scienced out and now turned over to vendors to capitalized on. Let NHRA and NASCAR leave us alone and we will find a way to make it better. It is no longer race on Sunday and sale on Monday. Every month stock eliminator gets closer to being a Super Stock. Leave the parts alone and stop the cheating. Let us as racers tweak and build the best we can. Let us accel in developing our rides and our power plants and receive the fruits of our labor and OUR ingenuity not some damn vendor that wants to do nothing but make money off us. If we break it enough, we WILL make it better. Let US play in our sport and be the best not some vendor for hire. If we can make our one part better and we are faster, great that is what makes our labor of sweat and tears worth that extra .1 on Sunday and then I go home and try to beat your .1 for the next Sunday. Let us use OUR brains not them.
Damn got on a rampage already this early. Woman come git me off here whilst I am aspoutin
reed

[eddie c]

Reed, I am very new to this site,but I really have enjoyed listening to
what everyone has to say regarding their class" stock eliminator".
I also read what you had to say about the large amounts of knowledge
thats posessed within the stock class . If we were to state that
we had more or equal knowledge of engine design and theory to the folks at the NASCAR shops of Hendrix and Rousch we might get a few
funny looks,with that said, I strongly believe the people in Stock Eliminator do more with less than any other class hands down. ed

[Reed Granrt]

[QUOTE=eddie c;290895]Reed, I am very new to this site,but I really have enjoyed listening to
what everyone has to say regarding their class" stock eliminator".
I also read what you had to say about the large amounts of knowledge
thats posessed within the stock class . If we were to state that
we had more or equal knowledge of engine design and theory to the folks at the NASCAR shops of Hendrix and Rousch we might get a few
funny looks,with that said, I strongly believe the people in Stock Eliminator do more with less than any other class hands down. ed[/QUOTE


Eddie
What I am talking about when I reference NASCAR is that none of those engines are no longer "stock". They are all race bred and have nothing to do with a stock car. They are tweaking and changing something that we cannot even purchase. It most definitely is not race on Sunday and sale/purchase on Monday. There is no longer a Chevy, Ford, or Mopar. It is what NASCAR has allowed the sport to grow and evolve too. It has even evolved further than our on Super Stock, so for me to say they are ahead of us on technology is just like saying Pro Stock and Top Fuel and our on pro categories is ahead of us. All of these categories have clearly a different playing field with totally different rules. They are allowed to take something and totally make it from scratch. We have to work with what we have and make it better. They make better what ever they have today. Tomorrow, they may have something entirely new to work with. We still are improving the 350 SBC or the 427FE Ford. So yes, I firmly believe we are the best at what we do and guess what, if NHRA doesnt stop letting us substitute new parts, we will either be another Super Stock class or another NASCAR. That 67 Ford will be nothing but a 67 Body going down the track with all modern parts under the hood. No technology, just purchased parts.
Damn come git me woman, I am aspouting agin
reed