2010 CJ no longer in Stock ?

[danny waters sr]

Originally Posted by clutch man

Yea we could start a whole new thread on the problems IHRA has, these guys on here have cars built for NHRA, most IHRA cars are crate motor, let them chose where they race.

Yeah ,you are right.
I guess i should have kept my comment to myself instead of saying anything on here.
I must have been dreaming when i saw some of the NHRA guys running IHRA some this year...I don't no how they got in with cars built for NHRA ( ? )

Anything in the NHRA class guide for s/ss are also in the IHRA class guide.(must be a mis-print)...
I'll just "try " to keep my thoughts to myself from now on..

Terry ,you are correct again my friend....

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by danny waters sr

Yeah ,you are right.
I guess i should have kept my comment to myself instead of saying anything on here.
I must have been dreaming when i saw some of the NHRA guys running IHRA some this year...I don't no how they got in with cars built for NHRA ( ? )

Anything in the NHRA class guide for s/ss are also in the IHRA class guide.(must be a mis-print)...
I'll just "try " to keep my thoughts to myself from now on..

Terry ,you are correct again my friend....

You are right to Danny. NHRA could go completely out of business and every track in the USA could be IHRA and the most would quit, sell out, etc. before they would "Lower" themselves and run IHRA. BRAIN WASHED !

[ALMACK]

Originally Posted by clutch man

they got in because if you have tires and a steering wheel you can go through tech, class guides are not all the same example HP are not up to date in IHRA, since you are pro IHRA maybe you and terry or (X) could explain why IHRA cannot get a good field of cars cars and NHRA is always full, diehards ihra regulars like bertozzi, fuqua, cummings,furr have all made NHRA their main focus, WHY? mr waters instead of always tring to find out something to talk nhra down about carry your car to a race and participate that is if it is up to NHRA standards and remember it's 3 tenths difference in the in the indexs.

So....what exactly are you saying ???

[danny waters sr]

Originally Posted by clutch man

they got in because if you have tires and a steering wheel you can go through tech, class guides are not all the same example HP are not up to date in IHRA, since you are pro IHRA maybe you and terry or (X) could explain why IHRA cannot get a good field of cars cars and NHRA is always full, diehards ihra regulars like bertozzi, fuqua, cummings,furr have all made NHRA their main focus, WHY? mr waters instead of always tring to find out something to talk nhra down about carry your car to a race and participate that is if it is up to NHRA standards and remember it's 3 tenths difference in the in the indexs.

Thoughts to myself.
I like NHRA, never said i didn't.Just raised in IHRA country.

IHRA don't give hp if a car runs fast at a NHRA meet.
Believe me ,the guides are the same (except some hp ratings)
IHRA didn't add 3 tenths to index ,NHRA took 3 tenths off...
You may want to ask the names you mentioned why they chose the sanction...
I would say i am one of the very low % of racers on here that as you say talk NHRA down.
With that said , I love racing and hope it stays around for a long time.....

[Charley Downing]

Danny and Terry how can you talk IHRA up?
Ten years ago there were a good place to race. Now there national events are a joke. I think the northern nats this year had about 400 total fans. And what they call a pro show is nothing but a local night of fire show. When I when to the northern nationals in 2002 the place was packed, tons of fans and racers. IHRA is not on the right track.

Now all the news from SEMA. New carmaro looks great MPR did a great job like always.

New Stk rule changes on the table for 2012

64 car fields for ss and stk at all nationals but Indy.
For stock only 1980 and newer cars only.
All you cry babys are going to get your want NHRA no longer needs you old cars to fill there fields. Sorry Greg and Andrew no NHRA for you guys next year. Well you can always run SS.
And last three new stk classes all 10.5 tire.
New cars are here to stay. Are you?

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

Danny and Terry how can you talk IHRA up?
Ten years ago there were a good place to race. Now there national events are a joke. I think the northern nats this year had about 400 total fans. And what they call a pro show is nothing but a local night of fire show. When I when to the northern nationals in 2002 the place was packed, tons of fans and racers. IHRA is not on the right track.

Now all the news from SEMA. New carmaro looks great MPR did a great job like always.

New Stk rule changes on the table for 2012

64 car fields for ss and stk at all nationals but Indy.
For stock only 1980 and newer cars only.
All you cry babys are going to get your want NHRA no longer needs you old cars to fill there fields. Sorry Greg and Andrew no NHRA for you guys next year. Well you can always run SS.
And last three new stk classes all 10.5 tire.
New cars are here to stay. Are you?

NOPE ! Never planned to be an NHRA member ever again. 10 years ago NHRA was fun also. Who cares about the Pro show in either association except for the clueless spectators who just want to watch crashes anyway. All the so called Pros do is keep the track from rusting from all the explosions. NHRA had my money for over 30 years. No more. Nostalgia shows and circuit races along with some IHRA are more fun for me. Thats more than enough running up and down the roads at todays fuel prices. If what you wrote means "1980 and newer cars in stock only" for 2012 is true then I wont be alone either. NHRA will just shoot themselves in their foot with that deal. Who will NHRA get to pay for the extra insurance for them to run the Fuel Cars???? NHRA always was behind the times with some tech stuff for stock and S/S.. Roller rockers and 10.5 tires have been on the books for a very long time in IHRA.
And to think....I used to think NHRA was the only deal in town....Until I woke up.

[jmcarter]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

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New Stk rule changes on the table for 2012

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For stock only 1980 and newer cars only.

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Never met you Charley, don't mind some of your outspoken posts, rather enjoy them; nothing wrong with some swagger but you're really over the top on this one in order to provoke....don't think NHRA can be that stupid. Turn away the most popular muscle cars in history and some of their top runners unless they completely change out their race cars in this climate? Tell many of the past Stock Champs "no thanks, we don't need your type". C'mon Man! Bet you can't wait for Greg or Andrew to get back to their keyboard, and if they don't take the bait, what then?

[Ed Fernandez]

Damnit Charlie.What'd you do,fall into the hard cider vat again????????

[Charley Downing]

No bait here, just the buzz from SEMA 2011. Also all national events(but INDY) are going to be three days in 2013. I was told this will help save on employee's, hotels, travel costs and the cost to run the event.

NHRA doesn’t make any money on older cars. They could care less about a 1969 camaro in A/SA that gets killed week in and week out by new cars. It cost more time ,money and employee’s to police these older cars and the cheating that going on with them. The newer cars are way easier to police. NHRA wants SS/STK to be easier to control with less bit^hing. And to taking up less time on the track. STK and SS are just filler for the big show. You guys need to wake up. When NHRA goes to this three day format what do you think they’re going to cut out? Extra cars. They want to see 30-40 New CJ’s,DP and camaro’s because that what people in the auto industry are talking about. The old days are over, some of you just can’t seem to get it through you heads.

Ed NHRA could care less about what you think, you don't pay the bills. The 2500 plus fans that come to each national event and buy beer,food and t-shirts pay 80 plus % of the bills. And when they leave they don't bitc$ about hp or rules or call CA on monday. They just want to know the date for next years event.

[Mickey Whaley]

Originally Posted by Charley Downing

No bait here, just the buzz from SEMA 2011. Also all national events(but INDY) are going to be three days in 2013. I was told this will help save on employee's, hotels, travel costs and the cost to run the event.

NHRA doesn’t make any money on older cars. They could care less about a 1969 camaro in A/SA that gets killed week in and week out by new cars. It cost more time ,money and employee’s to police these older cars and the cheating that going on with them. The newer cars are way easier to police. NHRA wants SS/STK to be easier to control with less bit^hing. And to taking up less time on the track. STK and SS are just filler for the big show. You guys need to wake up. When NHRA goes to this three day format what do you think they’re going to cut out? Extra cars. They want to see 30-40 New CJ’s,DP and camaro’s because that what people in the auto industry are talking about. The old days are over, some of you just can’t seem to get it through you heads.

Ed NHRA could care less about what you think, you don't pay the bills. The 2500 plus fans that come to each national event and buy beer,food and t-shirts pay 80 plus % of the bills. And when they leave they don't bitc$ about hp or rules or call CA on monday. They just want to know the date for next years event.

Charley I hope your eyes are brown?