Support your local Combo/Association races!!

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

I would support the local STK and Super Stock races , IF they prep the track for the higher HP cars ,if no prep then I will NOT race there period, It is Just like this when the Points races have test and Tune for what ever the cost is , I used to do this but no more no Prep no pay the money and no race .

Gee, we're a little spoiled here aren't we?
We used to race at the home track with no glue, whatsoever.. Bring your own!
You guys know the the glue just went up $300 a barrel? Get used to it. The local tracks make their money with T&T nights. A little spritz here and there...That's it.

Don, I've got this Bonneville here...You could build it with the pocket change you put on your dresser every night.
You could run the combos ,opens etc
Make lots of runs ..Get lots of hits and practice, just like the 2 car, touring pros..
What do you say?

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Don, I've got this Bonneville here...You could build it with the pocket change you put on your dresser every night.
You could run the combos ,opens etc
Make lots of runs ..Get lots of hits and practice, just like the 2 car, touring pros..
What do you say?

Markie - You're a born salesman - why not un-retire and move back East - I could use a guy wth your talent..................

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Gee, we're a little spoiled here aren't we?
We used to race at the home track with no glue, whatsoever.. Bring your own!
You guys know the the glue just went up $300 a barrel? Get used to it. The local tracks make their money with T&T nights. A little spritz here and there...That's it.

Mark, I could not disagree more. A track owner is selling a product. That product is a well prepared race track that offers solid consistent and reliable traction. If my car won't hook, why would I pay good money for his product? Honestly, if I load up and drive 60-100 miles, that's $80 worth of diesel for the round trip. Add to that 5 gallons of race fuel, at $12 a gallon. Then add $50 for test and tune. Even if I leave out the cost of oil and tires, not to mention wear and tear, I've spent near $200, if I don't buy anything to eat or drink. If the track does not hook like it should, I cannot learn anything other than how to avoid hurting myself or the car on a slick track. Hardly worth my $200 cash outlay, and a day's time.

The cost of doing business for everyone has gone up. Would you cut corners on a transmission you built for a racer, because it cost you more to build it? I know I will not, I refuse to offer a lesser quality product because it costs more to build a quality product.

It is inexcusable to have races decided on the quality of track preparation. That's a plain simple fact. If a track owner, promoter, or sanctioning body is cutting corners on track preparation to turn a profit, then they are stealing from their customers, both racers and spectators.

We work very hard and spend a considerable amount of hard earned cash to make our cars work extremely well. To have a track owner, promoter, or sanctioning body negate our hard work and hard earned cash with poor track preparation, after taking more of our hard earned cash is ludicrous.

[Arnold Greene]

Alan, you know what happens when you start to rationalize the cost versus the fun factor.....???? BTW, I could use another golf partner!

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Arnold Greene

Alan, you know what happens when you start to rationalize the cost versus the fun factor.....???? BTW, I could use another golf partner!

Arnold, I'm not really analyzing the cost vs. fun factor. But I do see your point.

Track owners who decide to cut costs by skimping on track prep are going to be wondering where their customers went. Just like anyone else who loses customers because they give them a lot less for their money. Racers are tired of being short sheeted by NHRA, the solution is not for track owners to short sheet racers, track owners who want more racers should be doing a better job of track prep, not a worse job.

I tried pasture pool, just never could get into it. I've got lots of stuff I can use to hunt and fish, if it comes to that.

[Larry Hill]

Dallas Jones owns Union Hill (Nashville,Tn) and Beech Bend(Bowling Green,Ky).

Union Hill had the best weekly combo program in the country, until Rick Gonzales. Rick is Dallas' son in law. He is not a racer or a good race track manager. Rick took something that was not broke and "Fixed It". The track used to hook but not any more. Start of elminations was at 7:00 pm. finals were 10:30 to 11:30. Car count was 18 to 25 most Saturdays. Rick's improvement was to have all finals at the same time. If you won you got your check about 1:30 am. S/SS Racers quit racing, due to poor track prep, waiting for hours for the next round, and with the late finish time it lost its famliy appeal.

Beech Bend is run by Clay Jones, Dallas's son. Its a GREAT place to race. For those that haven't been to Bowling Green, you need to put it on your list of places to race!! The two day combos are the best, we race Sat. nite and Sunday. Arrive Friday and spend the night in the campground and go to the park on Sat.

[Ed Wright]

I'm with Alan & Larry here. If you have a foot braked eleven or twelve second car it probably isn't as much of an issue. If it's too slick to learn anything I'm not interested in going.

[Don Kennedy]

A racer should never have to set up his race car for a unsafe track.I have heard this from the decision makers of the track well my bracket race cars don't have a problem with the track wow talk about short sight nesses , the daily bracket car does not remotely make the HP that the higher HP class cars does , . Also while I am on my soap box I am really amazed that the rules are always getting to the racer to update the belts , and all kinds of safety issues on our cars which I kind of of agree with but as the decision makers are telling us to do this there track worker are using the same scrapper]they they use 30 years ago and have not advanced with their ability to prep the track safely wow . Use the sticky stuff that works "dud if you don't you will see less and less race cars showing to race a very simple fact."

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I'm with Alan & Larry here. If you have a foot braked eleven or twelve second car it probably isn't as much of an issue. If it's too slick to learn anything I'm not interested in going.

Ed, I have blown the tires off of an 11 second stick car at a division race, and had them spin at every gear change.

[Ed Wright]

Alan, I said "foot brake" car. As in auto trans. And, yes it can be too slick for those too. But, they can hook on tracks the faster cars can not. I've gone up to watch the Stockers to get idea about the track. Looks OK, only to find it isn't for many SS cars. Mine is at Eastexas Race Cars right mow getting back halved. Hopefully I will have fewer problem next year. Gave up on 10.5" tires. A soft converter like bracket cars run would have been cheaper. Lol