NHRA allows Alum heads in stock/ss

Well then what are you going to do with all your time if that happens. You will not be able tell us we are on the road to hell, and you are the only one who see's it . We will be in hell. I think its going to be a while before that happens.
The aluminum cylinder heads aproved is not the worst idea. Gives the racers who are having a hard time locating 40+ year old castings a chance.
Nobody was up in arms when they allowed a BB Chevy a crate motor intake or brand new D ported exhaust cylinder heads with a GM part # on them. This is just a sign of the times. Alowing new production heads is not an old idea. Now not only Fords and Chevys are not the only people who have them.

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Just think of the good part.....When NHRA/IHRA trashes stock you will be all set to run the 10.90 class or maybe 9.90's if you junk is quick enough.

[Aubrey N Bruneau]

At an average of $2500.00 for a pair of old core 690/583 large port 409 heads, which are almost impossible to find within 500 miles... Edelbrocks would be welcome in my world.
Unfortunately, however....in un-molested condition... the Edelbrock heads will not make the power of the old GM castings.
Perhaps this is an exception... but this is the fact.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Aubrey N Bruneau

At an average of $2500.00 for a pair of old core 690/583 large port 409 heads, which are almost impossible to find within 500 miles... Edelbrocks would be welcome in my world.
Unfortunately, however....in un-molested condition... the Edelbrock heads will not make the power of the old GM castings.
Perhaps this is an exception... but this is the fact.

Aubrey, about how much could one expect to pay for a good block, heads, intake, and crank, to build a 409/425?

[Aubrey N Bruneau]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Aubrey, about how much could one expect to pay for a good block, heads, intake, and crank, to build a 409/425?

Generally, starts at about $3500. Depending how complete... can be as much as $6000.
Personlly, I won't sell one. Just WAY WAY too difficult to find around here ( not that I have an extra )

Tech-Man... I hear ya' about the IHRA / NHRA hypocracy !

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

Well then what are you going to do with all your time if that happens. You will not be able tell us we are on the road to hell, and you are the only one who see's it . We will be in hell. I think its going to be a while before that happens.
The aluminum cylinder heads aproved is not the worst idea. Gives the racers who are having a hard time locating 40+ year old castings a chance.
Nobody was up in arms when they allowed a BB Chevy a crate motor intake or brand new D ported exhaust cylinder heads with a GM part # on them. This is just a sign of the times. Alowing new production heads is not an old idea. Now not only Fords and Chevys are not the only people who have them.

I just remember when I did this very thing in IHRA years ago and all the NHRA racers hated the idea and started calling IHRA the International Hillbilly Hot Rod association. Now you guys are loving it. It was a bad idea for IHRA but now that NHRA decided to do it all is good and they can "walk on water"......can you say HYPOCRITE ! Same deal on the roller rockers ! When IHRA does it everyone says its a joke. When NHRA does it all is OK in the race car world.

[bubski]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

I just remember when I did this very thing in IHRA years ago and all the NHRA racers hated the idea and started calling IHRA the International Hillbilly Hot Rod association. Now you guys are loving it. It was a bad idea for IHRA but now that NHRA decided to do it all is good and they can "walk on water"......can you say HYPERCRIT ! Same deal on the roller rockers !

Right on , no ford small block heads out there? Total BS. How can anyone piss and moan about core cost when they get guides ,super secret valve job and cc job all for the meager price of at least 2000$ labor + parts .Your engine guy can give it to you in the behind but the guy with the cores is robbing you. You picked the combo now buy the correct factory heads already! Might as well go to crate motors now as everyone needs all the heads, rockers ,carbs ,lifters ,etc that never even came on a STOCK car

[Tim Ellis]

I never said there weren't any small block Ford cores out there, just that it's much cheaper/ easier to get a set of Edelbrocks if I was to run SS

[bubski]

Originally Posted by Tim Ellis

I never said there weren't any small block Ford cores out there, just that it's much cheaper/ easier to get a set of Edelbrocks if I was to run SS

im sure a set of little chiefs for a small block chevy as cast with parts cost about the same as top of the line 461s ported for SS but that does not make them an appropriate choice for a superstocker that is supposed to have factory heads. If it were all about easy whats the point of class racing? go buy all the aftermarket stuff you want and run pro at the local track. S/SS is not about replacing all your stock engine pieces and specifications that are unique to your combo just to make it 'easier'. you think your head guy gonna give you break cause you give him nice new heads? i dont think so.

[Todd]

Originaly posted by Todd Hoven "The aluminum cylinder heads aproved is not the worst idea. Gives the racers who are having a hard time locating 40+ year old castings a chance"


Good post Todd! I totally agree.

[442OLDS]

You make some good points Bubski!