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Old 02-21-2012, 03:16 PM   #1
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Default Re: National Records vs. the A.H.F.S.

Right now with the index is three tenths lower, and the auto hit is 1.20 under in all that is 1.50 under the old index. Now if you drove smart not hitting the 1.00 under to have it looked at and save it for say a shot at the record one time late in the year you would not get your combo hit. Even at .999 under would be almost1.30 under the old indexs.
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Old 02-21-2012, 03:59 PM   #2
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Default Re: National Records vs. the A.H.F.S.

The biggest problem with the A.H.F.S. is that it is to easy to get around. If you drive smart and don't care about things like records you can run a bogus car and be fast and never have to prove that the combo is legal. It is getting where NHRA doesn't even have the slips at National events. So unless you want to do something dumb like set the record and have NHRA look at all your stuff you can run almost anything bogus you want to. What would make A.H.F.S. work would be to have a tear down, pass, and be sealed with a date, If you take it apart after it is sealed it has to be checked again .Also if the you go fast enough to get the the combo horsepower it needs to be torn down and certified legal before they add horsepower. Do it at the division races of a random number of cars whether they were fast or not and you would have been torn down before you can run National events. And do it on the day before the race. Seems like a good idea to me.

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Old 02-21-2012, 05:15 PM   #3
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Default Re: National Records vs. the A.H.F.S.

Bill, You can set the record at opens and not hit the trigger unless you go 1.20 under, and you can set record`s at points meet and not hit the trigger, only your fastest run in qualifying counts one time on hitting the trigger, you can run two times under 1 second and it only counts as one hit on the trigger. you need to hit trigger twice before you get looked at, unless you go 1.20 under. Tom
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:11 PM   #4
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Default Re: National Records vs. the A.H.F.S.

Tom,

Thanks for that explanation.

It's... complicated.

Sounds liike you need to have access to a Philadelphia lawyer to ensure that you're not going to "trigger" something you really don't want to happen.

To GREATLY simplify, I think NHRA just needs to disable the monitoring of national record runs (ONLY,) as regards the A.H.F.S.

What could be easier?

The status of record holders is in need of an overhaul. Stock and Super Stock are performance-based classes and holding a national record in any of their classes should be elevated to a status commensurate with the accomplishment.

It's not, as things stand. I think the A.H.F.S. situation may be part of the reason.
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Old 02-22-2012, 12:50 AM   #5
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Default Re: National Records vs. the A.H.F.S.

i might have tried to set the u/sa record at indy open but ive only got a .02 window before auto trigger and shazaam im a t/sa car forever...too much risk for all that REWARD !

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Old 02-22-2012, 02:09 AM   #6
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Default Re: National Records vs. the A.H.F.S.

Jack, wasn't that Kingswood a T/SA when Quinn had it, set the record with it I believe. That is its natural class is it not.

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Old 02-22-2012, 03:48 AM   #7
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Default Re: National Records vs. the A.H.F.S.

Absolutely Right.

Records really mean very little now, except to the owner's ego, and possibly the engine builders business.

Would we have set the record somewhere lower than we did, if we weren't afraid of getting more horsepower? You bet, and I think many others close to the edge in their class certainly feel the same way.

Suspend the AHFS for records. Then you will see some real impressive records on the books.
Wouldn't it be nice is the Class Performers Award including points for a record? Or if the NHRA worked with some sponsors to create a payment for records. Maybe it is $50 or $100 each from each sponsor, so at least it would buy you a new gasket set after you tear down.

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