National Records vs. the A.H.F.S.

[bill dedman]

Tom,

Thanks for that explanation.

It's... complicated.

Sounds liike you need to have access to a Philadelphia lawyer to ensure that you're not going to "trigger" something you really don't want to happen.

To GREATLY simplify, I think NHRA just needs to disable the monitoring of national record runs (ONLY,) as regards the A.H.F.S.

What could be easier?

The status of record holders is in need of an overhaul. Stock and Super Stock are performance-based classes and holding a national record in any of their classes should be elevated to a status commensurate with the accomplishment.

It's not, as things stand. I think the A.H.F.S. situation may be part of the reason.

[Jack McCarthy]

i might have tried to set the u/sa record at indy open but ive only got a .02 window before auto trigger and shazaam im a t/sa car forever...too much risk for all that REWARD !

captain jack

[Ron Ortiz]

Jack, wasn't that Kingswood a T/SA when Quinn had it, set the record with it I believe. That is its natural class is it not.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA weighted subject

[NewHemi]

Absolutely Right.

Records really mean very little now, except to the owner's ego, and possibly the engine builders business.

Would we have set the record somewhere lower than we did, if we weren't afraid of getting more horsepower? You bet, and I think many others close to the edge in their class certainly feel the same way.

Suspend the AHFS for records. Then you will see some real impressive records on the books.
Wouldn't it be nice is the Class Performers Award including points for a record? Or if the NHRA worked with some sponsors to create a payment for records. Maybe it is $50 or $100 each from each sponsor, so at least it would buy you a new gasket set after you tear down.

David
The New Hemi Guy

[goinbroke2]

I agree with everything said...but playing the devil's advocate....what would people say when a person runs -.6 to -.9 in heads up runs to win every time...but has the record at -1.80?
I can just imagine the screaming about "playing the system".

Are you going to run your -.85 car against a car that has a record of -1.80? Can you cut THAT much better of a light and make him run it out the door enough to get him HP?
And even if he does take a hit to get the win, now he can only set the record at -1.50.....


Just sayin'....

[Joe Schweigert]

The biggest deal why records are not set is the time 3-4 hours on a tear down and the cost of the gaskets unless you are driven by your ego why deal with it. And why tear down a good running motor

[Jeff Stout]

Ill problably get flamed for this idea. If you have a circled R on the window and set the record and pass teardown then the runs can NOT be applied towards AHFS. But if you try for the record and dont make it then your ET is applied towards AHFS. So if you think you have the stones or like to gamble to set the record then go for it. If you go more then 1.20 or faster for automatic Tuesday HP increase and set the record OR go 1.00 under to be looked at and set the record then hands off. If you dont for whatever reason ( no excuses) set the record then the run or runs count towards AHFS. Sounded good in my head anyway. Is the risk for reward worth it? Now just to get some money for the effort would be great.
Jeff