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Old 04-15-2012, 08:58 AM   #1
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Bruce is correct on this and as far as Jack he's just wearing his NHRA cheer leader outfit! A lot of fan love the old cars as the can relate to them.
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Ralph - Thats the beauty of the whole thing - many fans ( and racers ) love the old school cars and many can't wait to see the new ones ........having them face of against each other is the best thing I know of to get people to watch and take notice .

And don't be jealous of my cheer leader outfit .....I'll never be able to thank Toby enough ! ! !
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:06 AM   #2
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So when a 1500hp, 3.0L twin turbo/supercharged/4 valve per cyl/ etc/ etc 2020 Ford outruns a 1968 hemi...your going to bitch again?

Perhaps we should outlaw everything but hemi's and 69 camaro's?

If the new camaro ever gets here I wonder how much bitching and whining there will be then?

Why in hell do you think the camaro is even being built???? It's not because of obama's love for cars!!!

No I'm not a nhra fanboy, but c'mon guys, this ain't 1970 anymore. Everyone thought the world was coming to an end with fuel inj, and then the ls or lt or whatever camaro's...but technology moved on.
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:12 AM   #3
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All the "firsts" are great.All the new cars are great except the resorting to power adders. Had they all been just injected or carbs it might not have been so lobsided. NHRA as done nothing new or different. They have always tended to turn a blind eye to anything new and hope the new cars replace the Nostalgia Stockers and Super Stockers. The problem is the racers with the cars are the victims only when the resist the trend. Sad but many have thought their time and money invested in the older cars would last forever. Times change and NHRA doesnt. Life after class racing is fine.
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:36 AM   #4
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And don't be jealous of my cheer leader outfit .....I'll never be able to thank Toby enough ! ! ![/QUOTE]

Jack the next time you wear it please shave your legs it would look better.
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Old 04-15-2012, 10:00 AM   #5
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I sometimes wonder what the Flathead guys said when the Smallblock Chevy was introduced !
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Old 04-15-2012, 10:46 AM   #6
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The sport is changing as is a lot of things in this world.
I like both types of cars and enjoy watching all.
This is not going to change back to "old school" as a lot of us growed up in.

The new cars are running as fast as the "old school " pro stocks were running back in the day.

This is the new face of drag racing and is still going to continue to change like it or not.

At least we still have drag racing and we can still run the old iron for now.
If i had the funds , i would have a new car myself and would also have an old one too....
I have respect for all class racers that work hard (and or both) spend $$$ to make their combo go as fast as they can. Now let's just see how fast they really can go.

CONGRATS on the 8 second run for the history books......
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:08 AM   #7
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I like the new cars. If I were going to buy one to drive on the street it would be a new Boss 302 Mustang. The problem with these new cars is the hp factor. They should have been put in their own classes ( fx) and run either in stock or super stock or both during eliminations. No one has a problem with them running in the eliminator, people just don't want to have to run them heads up or in class with these bogus factors. Ahfs will never fix the problem as long as new combinations with soft factors are introduced on a yearly basis.
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:21 AM   #8
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I like the new cars. If I were going to buy one to drive on the street it would be a new Boss 302 Mustang. The problem with these new cars is the hp factor. They should have been put in their own classes ( fx) and run either in stock or super stock or both during eliminations. No one has a problem with them running in the eliminator, people just don't want to have to run them heads up or in class with these bogus factors. Ahfs will never fix the problem as long as new combinations with soft factors are introduced on a yearly basis.
I agree (except for the Boss 302 Mustang part). Jim

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Old 04-15-2012, 09:02 PM   #9
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I like the new cars. If I were going to buy one to drive on the street it would be a new Boss 302 Mustang. The problem with these new cars is the hp factor. They should have been put in their own classes ( fx) and run either in stock or super stock or both during eliminations. No one has a problem with them running in the eliminator, people just don't want to have to run them heads up or in class with these bogus factors. Ahfs will never fix the problem as long as new combinations with soft factors are introduced on a yearly basis.
You are exactly right. You have to wonder how looking at the specs these were allowed their HP ratings when approved. On what planet would the 5.9L DP be the same 275 HP as the 275 hp GM LT1? Really? If we still had Farmer this would not be such a mess. I was told the NHRA tech people do know that many DPs are running with two barrels on the throttle body disconnected, and they don't care. Bill Farmer Dismuke would have cared.
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:19 PM   #10
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Congrats to Don for being the first 8-second stocker and congrats to JDM Engineering for supplying the power. Don goes out there every week with his foot to floor and his team spent countless hours getting that car that work.

What a lot of you guys don't know is that Don got the short-end of the NHRA stick 40-something years ago when he campaigned his Chevy and got run all over by the "new" under-factored combinations. Don didn't quit or bitch, and now his name is forever in the record books. Congrats guys.
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