Ford First "Stocker" Into The Eights

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by Peter Ash

What's your point? Mine is that the "Special Run Car" rule has been there for at least 12 years, and possibly longer. It's a bit late for anyone to start to complain isn't it?

Really? Then why was the rule completely rewritten just before the 2008 Cobra Jets were put in the guide?

Any particular reason you don't want to answer his question?

[Jim Cimarolli]

Forgive me but I just woke up. What is the factor in AA/S now? Also what is Don Fezell's engine hp rated at? Somebody was asking me yesterday what the minimum weight is for that combo.

[C and W Racing]

The 08 Cobra Jet in stock stick is rated at 491 hp.
Chuck

[HR9121]

Do you guys realize how ridiculous all this sounds? You think nobody gives a crap about stock and super stock now , if the average person was to stumble on this and read it or a fan(what few there are) there would be less interest in these classes than there is now. I let my wife read this and she said you guys were worst than a bunch of women and she's an expert, she owns a hair salon. I love stock and super stock but have to admit even my interest is starting to fade with every post on this board. I know some of the older combos may get screwed in a heads up every once in a great while but 99% of the time they are actually going to have to shoe polish them anyway. So what's the big freaking deal?

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by HR9121

Do you guys realize how ridiculous all this sounds? I know some of the older combos may get screwed in a heads up every once in a great while but 99% of the time they are actually going to have to shoe polish them anyway. So what's the big freaking deal?

Well, James, at least two really fast traditional cars have lost heads up races in later rounds in the last year or so, and we drew new cars in the first round of class at the last two national events. Maybe it ain't so rare as you think it is.

Wait until you spend $50K and a couple hundred hours on a race car, only to get beaten with ease by a car with a bogus factor. Then see how your interest in the class fades.

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Well, James, at least two really fast traditional cars have lost heads up races in later rounds in the last year or so, and we drew new cars in the first round of class at the last two national events. Maybe it ain't so rare as you think it is.

Wait until you spend $50K and a couple hundred hours on a race car, only to get beaten with ease by a car with a bogus factor. Then see how your interest in the class fades.

If you happen to have a car that falls in their class I'm really sorry for you right now as far as class eliminations go. I'm very well aware of what goes into these cars as I have friends around here in it, but lets be realistic with class out of the equation your odds of running one in eliminations are slim. I can only think of 2 this year in stock, Kevin Helms' 3rd round win in Baytown and I believe Jeff Taylor over Robbie Shaw at the Gainesville LODRS. Could've missed one but that's all I can think of. Charlie Fitzsimmons and Jeff Teuton won nationals without the benefit of a heads up run just up on the wheel driving. I haven't followed the class eliminations closely so I know that's where your argument is at and can respect that.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by HR9121

If you happen to have a car that falls in their class I'm really sorry for you right now as far as class eliminations go. I'm very well aware of what goes into these cars as I have friends around here in it, but lets be realistic with class out of the equation your odds of running one in eliminations are slim. I can only think of 2 this year in stock, Kevin Helms' 3rd round win in Baytown and I believe Jeff Taylor over Robbie Shaw at the Gainesville LODRS. Could've missed one but that's all I can think of. Charlie Fitzsimmons and Jeff Teuton won nationals without the benefit of a heads up run just up on the wheel driving. I haven't followed the class eliminations closely so I know that's where your argument is at and can respect that.

That would be two cars, one each in Stock and Super Stock. Considering the 6 classes that the two cars fit all commonly have new cars in them, the odds are not nearly so slim as you think.

[C and W Racing]

Originally Posted by HR9121

Do you guys realize how ridiculous all this sounds? You think nobody gives a crap about stock and super stock now , if the average person was to stumble on this and read it or a fan(what few there are) there would be less interest in these classes than there is now. I let my wife read this and she said you guys were worst than a bunch of women and she's an expert, she owns a hair salon. I love stock and super stock but have to admit even my interest is starting to fade with every post on this board. I know some of the older combos may get screwed in a heads up every once in a great while but 99% of the time they are actually going to have to shoe polish them anyway. So what's the big freaking deal?

James, I agree, This has been going on for several years now. Most of these cars are either AA or BB now and I doubt that there are very many if any of the older combo's that are in those classes. Two years ago, some people may have had a legitimate gripe, and maybe a few even last year, but I really don't think they have a lot to bitch about now.
Larry, I enjoy reading about all your travels,etc. But everyone knows you hate the new cars. Isn't it time to give it a rest?
Chuck

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by C and W Racing

James, I agree, This has been going on for several years now. Most of these cars are either AA or BB now and I doubt that there are very many if any of the older combo's that are in those classes. Two years ago, some people may have had a legitimate gripe, and maybe a few even last year, but I really don't think they have a lot to bitch about now.
Larry, I enjoy reading about all your travels,etc. But everyone knows you hate the new cars. Isn't it time to give it a rest?
Chuck

Thanks for the support Chuck. You filled in some that I left off.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by HR9121

Do you guys realize how ridiculous all this sounds?

It may sound ridiculous to you, James but it wasn't the racers here on this thread that started the ridiculousness...