I Told You So!

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by SStockDart

Well, let me see if I can at least clear up a couple of things. Eddie66 is in fact a retired Marine officer. Eddie and I disagree on everything involving politics. You will find no one more patriotic. Eddie can be a pain in the arse, but he is still a friend of mine.

Okay, in that case, I apologize.

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Okay, in that case, I apologize.

I wasn't looking for an apology but I graciously accept it. Yes, I am a pain in the arse. My nature is to question everything and put a human spin it. As a parent, I can't even image the pain the Martin's are going through right now. I can't image what Zimmerman is thinking and how this plays on his conscience. Only one person knows the truth and that is Zimmerman and God.

We have a Neighborhood Watch that drives around in a police car marked as a Neighborhood Watch, these ole gray foxes are not armed and do not confront people, they call the police. That is why I question why was Zimmerman out of his car and why was he armed, it all seems foreign to me? I think allot of people in this country are asking the same questions. I just happen to be one of them.

Thanks Gary! Hope to see you in November in Havasu!

[Alan Roehrich]

I am a parent as well. My son is 17. My daughter is 25.

But I understand exactly why Zimmerman was armed.

I also understand why he was out of his vehicle.

We have reached the point where hard working people are tired of being robbed and put upon, from regular street criminals, to the criminals in government.

I'm sure Zimmerman never wanted to shoot anyone, very few people ever do want to shoot anyone.

If you just want to shoot someone, you don't go through all the steps to make everything legal, getting a permit, buying a weapon through legal means, and calling the police.

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

I am a parent as well. My son is 17. My daughter is 25.

But I understand exactly why Zimmerman was armed.

I also understand why he was out of his vehicle.

We have reached the point where hard working people are tired of being robbed and put upon, from regular street criminals, to the criminals in government.

I'm sure Zimmerman never wanted to shoot anyone, very few people ever do want to shoot anyone.

If you just want to shoot someone, you don't go through all the steps to make everything legal, getting a permit, buying a weapon through legal means, and calling the police.

Give me your thoughts on why Zimmerman was armed and why he was out of his car? I am just curious, was he the victim of a previous crime?

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Eddies66

Give me your thoughts on why Zimmerman was armed and why he was out of his car? I am just curious, was he the victim of a previous crime?

I'll take a shot at your second question...


Looks like a large complex with a lot of sidewalks between the various buildings ..Possibly Zimmerman could not keep visual contact with the suspect from the parking lot.

See pic #9 >
http://www.foxnews.com/us/slideshow/...eased/#slide=1

[Alan Roehrich]

You act as though it is improper for a citizen to own and carry a firearm. That simply is not the case. Citizens in this nation have the right to own and carry a firearm or firearms

As a wise man once said, when seconds count, the police are minutes away.

They had several break ins in that complex. As I said, people are sick of being crime victims. Honest citizens have reached the point where they're simply no longer going to be run over by criminals. There is no reason any honest law abiding citizen should have to put up with criminals, or be defenseless.

I can't tell you what Zimmerman had on his mind, but every report from everyone in his complex said that he was honestly and genuinely concerned with crime. Again, according to previous reports, there had been break ins in that complex, at least one happened when a female victim was in her home alone. The perpetrators had repeatedly escaped capture and prosecution. Zimmerman's wife regularly stayed home alone. I can easily see where he would be extremely concerned. I know I would be, since my daughter stays home by herself.

Martin's death is a very sad thing. But it took two people to create that confrontation. Giving Martin a complete pass because he was a black teenager while attempting to crucify Zimmerman is simply ludicrous.

[Jim Wahl]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

You act as though it is improper for a citizen to own and carry a firearm. That simply is not the case. Citizens in this nation have the right to own and carry a firearm or firearms

As a wise man once said, when seconds count, the police are minutes away.

They had several break ins in that complex. As I said, people are sick of being crime victims. Honest citizens have reached the point where they're simply no longer going to be run over by criminals. There is no reason any honest law abiding citizen should have to put up with criminals, or be defenseless.

I can't tell you what Zimmerman had on his mind, but every report from everyone in his complex said that he was honestly and genuinely concerned with crime. Again, according to previous reports, there had been break ins in that complex, at least one happened when a female victim was in her home alone. The perpetrators had repeatedly escaped capture and prosecution. Zimmerman's wife regularly stayed home alone. I can easily see where he would be extremely concerned. I know I would be, since my daughter stays home by herself.

Martin's death is a very sad thing. But it took two people to create that confrontation. Giving Martin a complete pass because he was a black teenager while attempting to crucify Zimmerman is simply ludicrous.

I don't know what the question was because I have blocked Eddie, however I can say I agree with you 100% Alan.

A couple of other facts:
Zimmerman possessed a Florida issued Concealed Weapon (CCW), Security Officer (D) and a State Gun (G) license. He is a duly licensed armed security officer meeting all requirements of the State of Florida. Martin picked the wrong guy to confront and attack. End of story. Jim


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[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl

I don't know what the question was because I have blocked Eddie, however I can say I agree with you 100% Alan.

A couple of other facts:
Zimmerman possessed a Florida issued Concealed Weapon (CCW), Security Officer (D) and a State Gun (G) license. He is a duly licensed armed security officer meeting all requirements of the State of Florida. Martin picked the wrong guy to confront and attack. End of story. Jim


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And do you know how many people I see at the local ranges with the same licenses and training that are just crackpots and whatabe law enforcement. These people scare me more than criminals!

[SStockDart]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

You act as though it is improper for a citizen to own and carry a firearm. That simply is not the case. Citizens in this nation have the right to own and carry a firearm or firearms

As a wise man once said, when seconds count, the police are minutes away.

They had several break ins in that complex. As I said, people are sick of being crime victims. Honest citizens have reached the point where they're simply no longer going to be run over by criminals. There is no reason any honest law abiding citizen should have to put up with criminals, or be defenseless.

I can't tell you what Zimmerman had on his mind, but every report from everyone in his complex said that he was honestly and genuinely concerned with crime. Again, according to previous reports, there had been break ins in that complex, at least one happened when a female victim was in her home alone. The perpetrators had repeatedly escaped capture and prosecution. Zimmerman's wife regularly stayed home alone. I can easily see where he would be extremely concerned. I know I would be, since my daughter stays home by herself.

Martin's death is a very sad thing. But it took two people to create that confrontation. Giving Martin a complete pass because he was a black teenager while attempting to crucify Zimmerman is simply ludicrous.

. I could not agree more. But when it is all said and done, any bets that anyone will apologize from the Trayvon supporters???? I don't believe so...it takes someone with character and values to do that.

[Jim Wahl]

Originally Posted by SStockDart

. I could not agree more. But when it is all said and done, any bets that anyone will apologize from the Trayvon supporters???? I don't believe so...it takes someone with character and values to do that.

I think the Duke Lacrosse fiasco taught us a lot about the "Travonists". They are the same knee-jerk close-minded racists. Apology? Ha! I wouldn't hold my breath.

Did anyone else notice how large poor little baby child Trayvon was in the 7-11 video? 6'2" and 180 pound baby. Oh and his girlfriend said he had his hoodie up because it was raining. Was it raining in the store also? Hoodie was up the whole time.

Thug mentality. It'll get you killed! Look at all the rap guys who are always getting shot. Live by it... die by it! Jim


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