Deconstructing Stock

[TOSTO RACING]

I'm also with you guys on the heads up runs and rules to follow. Me being 37, I bracket raced S/P and PRO since I was 16. I always love the stock and superstock cars. Watching stock over the years and seeing a 9 inch tired car carry the wheels 100 feet, what is cooler than that! The last bracket race I was at had a about 150 dragsters and 2 door cars and about a 1000 cry babies lol no thanks just not for me. So I turned my camaro into a stocker and for the past 3 years I 've been running stock, and like said above I try and go to the events that have class just to run heads up. Knowing I'll get my *** kicked lol,but I try like hell, it just makes me work harder. Stock is cool and I hope it hangs around for awhile!
Like I always say when they call stock and superstock to the lanes its the best car show I 've ever been too!

[James Perrone]

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No heads up ? This aint golf .Stock is entry level just go into Cars For Sale section.
Thats where I found my car. Did good first 4 races .Then at Atco I run into Tex Miller heads up..I think he past me in the wheelie.*** KICKED..Took my beating and been sceawing up heads up ever since.,,As always this post is driven by people who dont have a dog in the fight...

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by James Perrone

,As always this post is driven by people who dont have a dog in the fight...

And who would that be?
Ken Bugaj ? That's who first mentioned no heads up as a solution.
He doesn't race? His son doesn't race?
Who/what are you talking about?

[XSTOCKER]

Enforce the written rules or rewrite the rules. I'd bet there'd be enough people that would come back or bring their kids into it if you got rid of the BS. Please don't tell me to work harder......sorry, I should stay off of the internet.

[KEN BUGAJ]

Originally Posted by James Perrone

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No heads up ? This aint golf .Stock is entry level just go into Cars For Sale section.
Thats where I found my car. Did good first 4 races .Then at Atco I run into Tex Miller heads up..I think he past me in the wheelie.*** KICKED..Took my beating and been sceawing up heads up ever since.,,As always this post is driven by people who dont have a dog in the fight...

Jim,
Is the Dog in the fight BS directed at me ?
I would hope not.

[B Parker]

It's more than just the price of the cars. There have been plenty of good cars out there for sale under 20 thous. My Brother tried to sell his last year for 15 and there were no takers. He put 3500 into it over the winter and the car is an easy second under in good air. It's a g car. The real cost is getting to and from the tracks and the price of an entrance. Entrance fees are up 4 times what they were when I started and payouts are not even double. Contingentcies have gone backwards. Indy class win last year. 50 dollars from vp that was it. Really !!! Our local Stock/Super Stock organization does a better job promoting sponcers. Just tires and racing gas can keep your walet empty. Lets face it to go to most National Event unless it's in your back yard it cost you an easy g note. Even with that cost we still get blocked from entering some of them without the right grade points. I would have loved to race E-Town. Not many on this board have been to as many NHRA races as I have in the last 25 years. But because I was only able to get a grade of 3 last year I'm blocked. I guess I'm just not a good customer. Ed is also right. Times have changed as far as the kids are concered. My son would rather screw around with his electronics than work on a car. And I don't really want him to get this disease. It takes way to much time and way to much money. But even with all the BS I still really love it. . Barry

[HR9121]

I see alot of good young drivers in stock here in division 9, but the reality of it is that for the most part they were raised up into it. Don't really think that's what you would call new blood. With that said I look around the pits now and don't see alot of young kids( under say 16 ) running around they're probably in the motorhome playing video games. I don't really see what u call any young gearheads in my area either unless you consider the boys with the imports with the fart can mufflers buzzing down the road. So that could be your new entry level class, import fart can stock- IF/CS

[Ed Fernandez]

Any economics majors out there?If so compare the cost of the really fast stockers from back in the golden age in todays dollars.I'll bet there wont be much of a difference.Same for the comparative cost of parts,fees fuel costs etc.It comes down to a new attitude AND
an unwillingness on the part of those in charge to control the costs and conduct of the
races,not to mention knuckling uder to the car manufacturers,TV production companies and malcontents who want any sort of advantagous rule changes.
You can never go back.