Factory Showdown at INDY

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by davidhuff

How does any racer take advantage of a fellow racer if his race car is built buy the nhra rules and all work is legal?

You know David, you seem like a really nice guy but you don't understand how things work at nhra. These cars were put into Stock because the OEM's had money. nhra sold out that's all.

The OEM's wanted to sell these cars. But before doing so they needed really soft factors to make certain they could sell them. The OEM's don't give two hoots about nhra or it's rules they just wanted to get these cars out there. Let's face it. These cars would be as dead as KFC Chicken if they were rated at their real potential. This is the main reason the new cars are in Stock - because racers wanted to take advantage of the gifts. Racers did not buy them because they plan on sticking around for X number of years to make them competitive. nhra simply stabbed it's loyal Sportsman Racers in the back for a few dollars. And, in the end, nhra has lost credibility as a sanctioning body. But that means nothing to them. Money does!

Look at this Indy deal. Now nhra supposedly wants to create some sort of show down race. But they have to create weight breaks to prevent the CJ's from blowing the Mopars off the track. Then think about the hypocrisy of this event. These cars are currently banging the hell out of Stockers in Stock but now they need a weight break for the "Show."

It would fair much better for all of you new car guys to admit that you have a huge advantage as a result of the gifts from nhra. Then petition nhra for your own class. Heck, you might have fun. Run the new car singles in a non ahfs Combo race for class at Indy. Sounds like fun to me.

[C and W Racing]

Look at this Indy deal. Now nhra supposedly wants to create some sort of show down race. But they have to create weight breaks to prevent the CJ's from blowing the Mopars off the track. Then think about the hypocrisy of this event. These cars are currently banging the hell out of Stockers in Stock but now they need a weight break for the "Show."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they come up with the weight breaks because, as an example, the cobra jets are for the most part in
AA and BB and the mopars are not. That would be like asking an A stock and a B stock to run heads up. The B stock is going to want some concessions, which is where the weight breaks come from.
Chuck

[Jack Matyas]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

You know David, you seem like a really nice guy but you don't understand how things work at nhra. These cars were put into Stock because the OEM's had money. nhra sold out that's all.

The OEM's wanted to sell these cars. But before doing so they needed really soft factors to make certain they could sell them. The OEM's don't give two hoots about nhra or it's rules they just wanted to get these cars out there. Let's face it. These cars would be as dead as KFC Chicken if they were rated at their real potential. This is the main reason the new cars are in Stock - because racers wanted to take advantage of the gifts. Racers did not buy them because they plan on sticking around for X number of years to make them competitive. nhra simply stabbed it's loyal Sportsman Racers in the back for a few dollars. And, in the end, nhra has lost credibility as a sanctioning body. But that means nothing to them. Money does!

Look at this Indy deal. Now nhra supposedly wants to create some sort of show down race. But they have to create weight breaks to prevent the CJ's from blowing the Mopars off the track. Then think about the hypocrisy of this event. These cars are currently banging the hell out of Stockers in Stock but now they need a weight break for the "Show."

It would fair much better for all of you new car guys to admit that you have a huge advantage as a result of the gifts from nhra. Then petition nhra for your own class. Heck, you might have fun. Run the new car singles in a non ahfs Combo race for class at Indy. Sounds like fun to me.

Enough already ! ! ! You have no proof what so ever that the NHRA sold us or anyone else out - that may be your opinion but its just that .And I do understand how things work - remember I'm the NHRA shill ..................

[cambria]

This is kinda fun.By the way I am not in the showdown because I am running super stock not stock.Wish there was a superstock showdown,and I do wish they formed a permanent heads up class like the old Top Stock.Had an absoulute ball racing that even though I could not beat that old 69 Camaro with my 2000 firebird.

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas

Enough already ! ! ! You have no proof what so ever that the NHRA sold us or anyone else out - that may be your opinion but its just that .And I do understand how things work - remember I'm the NHRA shill ..................

The new cars in Stock is proof. And you have no proof they didn't because they don't allow shills in on company business.

[BlueOval Ralph]

They NHRA changed the rules on the 50 car build it was 50 of each combo, nut like the COPOs no manuals or 3 speeds built just listed on paper and not 50 of each combos. Or like the Fords one one engine combo and 3 paper engine combos that you couldn't even a compelte engine from the dealer.