Kurt Johnson got SCREWED!

C and W Racing · 07-30-2012, 10:41 AM

The 60' was messed up because the timers started and the car wasn't moving. Vinnie did go red, Kurt never moved until after Vinnie. In my opinion there should not have been a rerun, Kurt should have been declared the winner. Glitch in the system, yes, Vinnie still clearly left first and went red.
Chuck

Ed Wright · 07-30-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by C and W Racing

The 60' was messed up because the timers started and the car wasn't moving. Vinnie did go red, Kurt never moved until after Vinnie. In my opinion there should not have been a rerun, Kurt should have been declared the winner. Glitch in the system, yes, Vinnie still clearly left first and went red.
Chuck

I agree. Kurt Did not move first. Vinnie did. Very clear. Kurt said his car was 1/8" high. Something blow through the guard beam? Who knows. Kurt should have been declared the winner.

Bill Koski · 07-30-2012, 10:56 AM

Once that can of worms was opened it would be chaos every time somebody thought something odd happened.

Mike Carr · 07-30-2012, 11:16 AM

I had the same thing happen to me a few times with the HF/SA car I raced. Billy put a new header on, and I had to keep the front tires pumped up to keep the header from triggering the beam. Sometimes I'd get a bad redlight, even before I moved (like Kurt's deal). My RT would be off three tenths, and my ET the same amount. Pretty sure this is what happened to Kurt--something interupted the beams and he got a redlight without moving.

Vince's -.006 red could have been a reaction to seeing Kurt's redlight.

I almost never agree with Graham "Dim" Light, but in this case, they were correct. Not enough hard evidence to warrant a re-run.

Still sucks for Kurt. I imagine they will go over the front of the car with a fine tooth comb and eliminate anything that could possibly trip the beam and cause this to happen again.

C and W Racing · 07-30-2012, 11:32 AM

I doubt Vinnie reacted to Kurts red light. On a pro tree, you react to the ambers coming on, and in this case, the ambers came on, then the red light. On a sportsman tree, I could see leaving too soon from reacting to a red light. Now if Kurt would have actually left too early, I could see Vinnie reacting to that
Chuck

Jim Wahl · 07-30-2012, 11:39 AM

This might be a silly question but what do Pro Stockers use to hold the car in the beams? Do they have line locks? I really don't know.

I watched the race very carefully also, I have it on TiVo, it was Vincent who left first, no doubt, but he had a -.006 light. I'll leave this one to the electrical experts. Looked funky to me. Jim

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novassdude · 07-30-2012, 11:47 AM

If you watched the video it was clear that Vinnie moved first and he went -.006 so either Kurt should have been declared the winner or they should have rerun.

Lyn Smith · 08-09-2012, 08:00 AM

Story today on the Competion Plus site by Brockmyer of Compu link.Explains what happened to Kurt.It has happened before too.!!!!

07-30-2012, 10:41 AM	#1
C and W Racing Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 557 Likes: 6 Liked 13 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! The 60' was messed up because the timers started and the car wasn't moving. Vinnie did go red, Kurt never moved until after Vinnie. In my opinion there should not have been a rerun, Kurt should have been declared the winner. Glitch in the system, yes, Vinnie still clearly left first and went red. Chuck

07-30-2012, 10:56 AM	#3
Bill Koski Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 213 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! Once that can of worms was opened it would be chaos every time somebody thought something odd happened.

07-30-2012, 11:16 AM	#4
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! I had the same thing happen to me a few times with the HF/SA car I raced. Billy put a new header on, and I had to keep the front tires pumped up to keep the header from triggering the beam. Sometimes I'd get a bad redlight, even before I moved (like Kurt's deal). My RT would be off three tenths, and my ET the same amount. Pretty sure this is what happened to Kurt--something interupted the beams and he got a redlight without moving. Vince's -.006 red could have been a reaction to seeing Kurt's redlight. I almost never agree with Graham "Dim" Light, but in this case, they were correct. Not enough hard evidence to warrant a re-run. Still sucks for Kurt. I imagine they will go over the front of the car with a fine tooth comb and eliminate anything that could possibly trip the beam and cause this to happen again. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912

07-30-2012, 11:32 AM	#5
C and W Racing Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 557 Likes: 6 Liked 13 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! I doubt Vinnie reacted to Kurts red light. On a pro tree, you react to the ambers coming on, and in this case, the ambers came on, then the red light. On a sportsman tree, I could see leaving too soon from reacting to a red light. Now if Kurt would have actually left too early, I could see Vinnie reacting to that Chuck

07-30-2012, 11:39 AM	#6
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,845 Likes: 672 Liked 683 Times in 129 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! This might be a silly question but what do Pro Stockers use to hold the car in the beams? Do they have line locks? I really don't know. I watched the race very carefully also, I have it on TiVo, it was Vincent who left first, no doubt, but he had a -.006 light. I'll leave this one to the electrical experts. Looked funky to me. Jim . __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 NHRA D2 National Open Stock Champion 1982 NHRA D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association. Last edited by Jim Wahl; 07-30-2012 at 01:25 PM.

07-30-2012, 11:47 AM	#7
novassdude Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: usa Posts: 752 Likes: 204 Liked 136 Times in 49 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! If you watched the video it was clear that Vinnie moved first and he went -.006 so either Kurt should have been declared the winner or they should have rerun.

08-09-2012, 08:00 AM	#8
Lyn Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pontiac,il. Posts: 1,212 Likes: 293 Liked 997 Times in 201 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! Story today on the Competion Plus site by Brockmyer of Compu link.Explains what happened to Kurt.It has happened before too.!!!!

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