Erica & Greg?

[Todd Boyer]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Only thing from GM is two head castings and a roof panel and I'm not sure about the rear quarter panels for the body. Four pieces. Before I started screwing around with my black car (was driving it to work at that time) I was getting in Edwards' way at the races. Right now I can't think of the guy's name in Indianapolis that was building so many Pro Stock engines, and was leasing them out. Anyway, he supposedly told one of Mike's guys he ported the new ( at that time) Chrysler heads with the same CNC program as the GMs. I've seen a set of Mike's heads as-delivered from GM. Unless something has changed they are raw castings. Not much of an OEM design there. Only a rough, about a 1", hole where an intake port would be. No seats, guides, etc. about four to six pieces from GM in the whole car. Same for the others. Big deal.

Aftermarket head castings with a "factory" part number and CNC ports. When Dale Eicke took over the Mopar program after the Wayne County "break in", I remember reading that he had a set of Pontiac heads "blessed" with a Mopar part number. It's my contention that those "factory" part numbers are assigned to parts that are developed by individuals (Glidden, Roy Johnson, WJ, Larry Morgan, Eicke etc) using manufacturers money and that manufacturer gets their name and part number on the part. The parts themselves don't resemble current assembly line parts in any way at all really.

[Ed Wright]

Todd, you are right. Warren developed one generation of the GM heads, and I read also the blocks. That would make them WJs, not GMs. Right? LOL

[Todd Boyer]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Todd, you are right. Warren developed one generation of the GM heads, and I read also the blocks. That would make them WJs, not GMs. Right? LOL

I'd say you're right, Ed !! I pretty much lost interest n Pro Stock after all that "nitrous cheating" crap came to light (Wayne County, Jerry Eckman, Billy Glidden - and I'd LOVE to believe WJ). That was 15 or more years ago, and nowadays it's even farther away from "stock", especially in appearance. The NHRA rule book back then said the cars had to use a factory roof and quarter panels. I'm sure that's not the case today. Possibly a "factory" roof panel as you say ????

[Jason]

From the 2012 rulebook in Pro Stock section:

"NHRA-accepted composite body mandatory."

They don't even use real bodies anymore. Nothing about Pro Stock is stock. But then very little about Stock is stock anymore. And it's all in the name of progress.

[Ed Wright]

I really don't care how "stock" they are. It's close racing between normally aspirated door cars. I like Comp too. Nothing "stock" there either. I can't imagine a person interested in engine technology not being interested in Pro Stock.

[Bob Don]

I gotta tell you, Ed, I'm not a big fan of the homogenized jelly beans that Pro Stocks have become. I prefer it when pro stock bodies were actual cars. (Much like NASCAR has become as well).

[D.Johns]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I really don't care how "stock" they are. It's close racing between normally aspirated door cars. I like Comp too. Nothing "stock" there either. I can't imagine a person interested in engine technology not being interested in Pro Stock.

Exactly my thoughts as well. This class is incredible. The close races, the precision needed for perfect run everytime and the technology. The cars are a marvel.

I wonder if or when they may allow Fuel Injection and dare I say it, Overhead Cams maybe in 10 years

[Ed Wright]

Still talking about fuel injection. Racing is so close, I don't understand why they would change it.

[cutta]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I really don't care how "stock" they are. It's close racing between normally aspirated door cars. I like Comp too. Nothing "stock" there either. I can't imagine a person interested in engine technology not being interested in Pro Stock.

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Originally Posted by Bob Don

I gotta tell you, Ed, I'm not a big fan of the homogenized jelly beans that Pro Stocks have become. I prefer it when pro stock bodies were actual cars. (Much like NASCAR has become as well).

Unfortunately, using OEM bodies or bodies more similar to OEM will create an even bigger parity issue giving rule makers an even bigger headache.

[Todd Boyer]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

I really don't care how "stock" they are. It's close racing between normally aspirated door cars. I like Comp too. Nothing "stock" there either. I can't imagine a person interested in engine technology not being interested in Pro Stock.

It is close racing, IMHO it'd just be nice if the cars were still like they were 15 years ago. They are a bit like NASCAR cars in that they really don't resemble actual street cars, but given the choice, I'd watch Pro Stock hands down every time. Watching cars turn left all day just makes me dizzy. It blows my mind how many people are into it.