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Old 08-16-2012, 03:28 PM   #1
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Talking Re: Bring back super/mod...

To cut legacy costs

Use commercially sold car fuel
such as
PUMP GASOLINE !!!
or
E85 since it is a new Commercial Product.

Limit cam lift to .550 to reduce Valve Trane breakage.
Would consider Aluminum Heads.
Rule limit CC and Valve Diameter.
Intake Manifold with a limit of 2 Inch Hood rise.
EFI Throttle Body
Limit to Iron Blocks
Common Engine Sizes like 355, 396 and 430
9 inch Stocker Slick
Stock Fuel Tanks
Full Interiors

Super Boom Box Stereos :-)

Would like to see a Fat Body Class for Ford LTD/CV's, Bonneville, Wildcats, Impalas, Dodges/Plymouth, Rebel AMC's included.



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Old 08-16-2012, 03:30 PM   #2
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Who are we kidding? None of this will ever happen anyway.
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:35 PM   #3
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I don't think a single crate engine would be an option. It's ok for circle trackers because they are all the same anyway. Personally I'm a Ford guy, there are chevy guys and the 2 most die hard groups AMX and MOPAR. The crate engine could work in a specific racing series like NMRA with their Coyote crate engine class.

Why not have rules like the NMCA Mean Street.(it absorbed the now defunct NMRA Pure Street class). That class was exciting to watch. Won't be cheap(again no heads up is) but keeps the spirit alive. You are severely limiting things by not allowing any new engines in.

http://www.nmcadigital.com/cat/rules...reet-Final.pdf

I haven't followed the class much since it absorbed the NMRA Pure Street class. So how it's working out. ??? But kinda the same concept just allows some newer stuff in.
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Also I would limit fuel to C-10 VP
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Sorry guys, but you need to limit the heads mainly. Nothing exciting about buying a crate motor, and sticking it in. Better hope you get the good one. Heads, and other simple restrictions will keep the cost down. And you need Ford, Chevy, and Mopar.
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:07 AM   #6
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Default Re: Bring back super/mod...

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To cut legacy costs

Use commercially sold car fuel
such as
PUMP GASOLINE !!!
or
E85 since it is a new Commercial Product.

Limit cam lift to .550 to reduce Valve Trane breakage.
Would consider Aluminum Heads.
Rule limit CC and Valve Diameter.
Intake Manifold with a limit of 2 Inch Hood rise.
EFI Throttle Body
Limit to Iron Blocks
Common Engine Sizes like 355, 396 and 430
9 inch Stocker Slick
Stock Fuel Tanks
Full Interiors

Super Boom Box Stereos :-)

Would like to see a Fat Body Class for Ford LTD/CV's, Bonneville, Wildcats, Impalas, Dodges/Plymouth, Rebel AMC's included.



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I can't imagine any one of those working. LOL
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:29 AM   #7
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Default Re: Bring back super/mod...

Great ideas here...some are...well..a bit un-realistic?

How about 1960 and later cars....or 1965 and later? Not sure about letting the '50's stuff
in there...

Are you ready for a '62 Nova Super-Mod car?

Cam lift....somebody mentioned .700" max....another .550"...that's too SMALL! How about a compromise @ .650"...would require lower-cost valve springs than the higher lifts.

I LIKE the following.....

Single-disc clutch

NO cranktrigger...NO belt-drive...NO vacuum pump....NO aluminum heads or rods.....

Stud-mounted rockers...except Mopar engines...

Could be "swayed" into 10.5 tire...although I think 9" could work....

Someone mentioned ladder-bars only...would allowing traction systems like Cal-Tracs
or similar styles NOT be in the best interest of this class?

Have a problem with clutchless trans....MUST be clutch actuated IMHO!

Think small hood scoops could be allowed...or fibreglass hoods with scoops....Think that flat-hood ONLY rule would cause "identity" problem with Stock and SS cars...especially with the FANS....

WE DO want to put "fannies" in the stands....right GUYS?


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Old 08-17-2012, 10:45 AM   #8
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What I meant by the fans was that maybe this class might "stir" some interest with the younger set...getting them to think....

Hey, maybe I can DO that!
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:46 AM   #9
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You have so many back halfed older cars sitting, is my reasoning. Plus, people of all ages still love them. Super mod has never been a 9 in. tire deal. I think 10.5 was the smallest, and IHRA allowed a 12.5 if I remember right. You will lose lots of participants by allowing too much, or limiting too much. I don't care what lift they run on the cam, but needs enough to make them high winding, but I think there should be a limit to save the valve train. The limiting money factor could, and should be the heads. You want a man's heads? Give him $500 and your heads, and there you go. The protester should not be allowed to give them a damaged set in any way.
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I think any year old car is fine. The crowd of all ages loves them And to an earlier post, chevy only makes iron heads at the original 23 degree. They have not cast anything, of any other degree in iron. Ford has a 10 degree iron, and I think mopar has something other then the factory 18 degree. Someone will tell me if I'm wrong, but chevy casts nothing in iron other then 23 degree. Believe me, I know.
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