Bring back super/mod...

[randy wilson]

Make the claim a realistic $10,000, without the carb and pan, and you got a deal. Everyone knows everyone has a carb they wouldn't trade to get their wife back, and the pan may only fit a certain chassis. Also, I think just trading heads would be the cure, with just a $500 trade. What say you all?

[Michael Kilduff]

Originally Posted by randy wilson

Make the claim a realistic $10,000, without the carb and pan, and you got a deal. Everyone knows everyone has a carb they wouldn't trade to get their wife back, and the pan may only fit a certain chassis. Also, I think just trading heads would be the cure, with just a $500 trade. What say you all?

Sounds pretty good. A question though-

How do you prevent a couple or three guys from trading killer heads amongst themselves, or passing around a ringer of an engine? I know claimer rules exist in roundy rounders, just curious how they prevent such a phenomenon?

What problems did you have that made you decide to close the track down?

[randy wilson]

If anyone, I mean anyone, at any time, can claim your heads with identical exchange, that would stop the ringer deal. I closed the track mainly because I didn't have the time I truly needed to put into it. The constant bitching from people I knew well was just the final straw. That would not be a problem in sanctioned racing. We were accused of favoring our car, when the rules were exactly the same for all. It takes a lot more time to run a track then people think.

[killintime6968]

I would be totally into this. I think a $500 claimer rule on heads would help help level the playing field. Would the old clutch assisted Nash 5spds be allowed like the old modified days. This new class would help pull out a lot old outclassed modified and superstock cars from the back corners of shops and bracket classes.

[randy wilson]

I like the idea of any clutch assisted 5 speed. Doug Nash included. I did a back to back with a Nash and a faceplate G-Force, .001 difference in the Nash's favor. That's just driver variance. But we were clutching every gear, literally. To make sure people are using the clutch, we had a roll bar mounted camera that under a $25 protest, would be put in the car and had to do a back-up run within .002. The 9 in. tire deal won't work because most cars have tubs that are sitting. I like a spec 11.5 tire myself. But we all will never agree on all points. I definetely think no computers, or multi disc clutches.Pro tree only. With clutching and driver ability coming back into the race. Pro tree equals less redlights by far.

[Tod Lane]

Originally Posted by Michael Kilduff

Sounds pretty good. A question though-

How do you prevent a couple or three guys from trading killer heads amongst themselves, or passing around a ringer of an engine? I know claimer rules exist in roundy rounders, just curious how they prevent such a phenomenon?

Simple, last qualifier gets first shot at the motor or heads, which ever you decide to make "claimer".

Right on up the ladder, next slowest gets second option

[V_Robinson]

Originally Posted by Tod Lane

Simple, last qualifier gets first shot at the motor or heads, which ever you decide to make "claimer".

Right on up the ladder, next slowest gets second option

When I used to race the dirt tracks, our whole cars were claimers. that could be bought by anyone that attended the race. I am not saying that the whole car should be for sale but letting other people that want to enter the class buy the heads would stop bogus heads

[Dick Butler]

Randy, Since it would be a start up class with NHRA and people would still want to run NHRA events in a legal form couldnt the specs make the cars legal for one of the Mod SS classes. They wouldnt be class winner but Points meets would still be legal and fun on the dial in end of it. Keep the chassis Legal rules and MAKE the motor combo allowed legal at the wt.? Then if guys support the class in numbers local or points meet races could be added for fun..

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

Randy, Since it would be a start up class with NHRA and people would still want to run NHRA events in a legal form couldnt the specs make the cars legal for one of the Mod SS classes. They wouldnt be class winner but Points meets would still be legal and fun on the dial in end of it. Keep the chassis Legal rules and MAKE the motor combo allowed legal at the wt.? Then if guys support the class in numbers local or points meet races could be added for fun..

Why dial-in? Make it heads-up, no-dial in. A fair comparison will be a SS/CS car type, but with a designated specific approved cylinder head.

[Steve Stickel]

Todays ss/cs engine rules way too liberal as I read whats going on here.. More like a smallblock SS/H Or SS/I car with a smaller cam, say .500 or .550, non- sheetmetal intake, a spec carb, (600-750) etc. I believe a 9.00 weight break at min 3000lbs. (333cu in) would satisfy everybody, the Ford and Chrysler guys included...top out at a maximum of say 3300lbs at 367cu in ...