Bring back super/mod...

[randy wilson]

I think any year old car is fine. The crowd of all ages loves them And to an earlier post, chevy only makes iron heads at the original 23 degree. They have not cast anything, of any other degree in iron. Ford has a 10 degree iron, and I think mopar has something other then the factory 18 degree. Someone will tell me if I'm wrong, but chevy casts nothing in iron other then 23 degree. Believe me, I know.

[Dick Butler]

Randy, you have experience with this class at a track? You discussed dropping the track due to complaining. Were the complaints about this type class? IF so what were the complaints?

[randy wilson]

Dick, the complaints were the spec heads were not fair to all brands, but the flow charts, and circle track data I had from Brodix said otherwise. The other brands, mopar and ford, never even tried to compete, so how can anyone complain about how unfair it is, was what I meant. All three brands would, and could be competitive, I've seen it in the circle track reports. The only people who supported me were the chevy guys, and it started to take off, but the constant negative bull**** from just one cry baby, just got too much to put up with. Believe me, since I've closed, lots of racers have called, and begged to get another chance, but after closing, and everything calming down, we decided to not re- open. Maybe when I retire in a few years I will try again. Will see how this thing plays out.

[randy wilson]

And Dick, I think with a sanctioned body such as NHRA, these little clitches won't happen. Imagine if Jon Kaase had built a ford spec motor to compete at my track. I'd probably be the one crying. Ha!!!

[Dick Butler]

If you have a spec sheet of all the rules could you post it for us to read in one post?Thanks
Seems like a viable class to me.

[randy wilson]

I will. Will take me a minute to drag them out of where my wife stashed them.

[4speedracer]

I have always wanted to class race, but to wade through the rule book and figure out a competive class is hard and then having to round up all the parts that are hard to find. This would be a way for some like me to have a chance to get there. I have always raced with a stick car class with bracket type engines. I have a question or 2, like on engine size any bore and stroke or limit it to factory bores? or if you run spec heads why would a chevy guy want claim a set of ford heads? I like the ideas floating around. I get to race with a lot of the old production modified cars and most are 4 link cars.I think weight limit with any type rear suspension,factory rwd car.

[randy wilson]

Dick, I'll try to do the best from memory right now. 1. pounds per C.I.D. .01 spot for every half lb. per cube. Started at 4 lbs. down to 11.5 lbs. 2. Brodix spec head, , cast intake only. 3. Dry sumps add 50 lbs. external pump, add 25 lbs. 2 - 4's add fifty lbs. 2 speed powerglide, deduct 8% weight, 3 speed deduct 5%, all this based against a clutch assisted trans. 4. True clutchless add 150 lbs. We had our own P and G gauge, fuel tester, scales, and and an oxygen sensing device I believe I bought from George Bryce, (don't quote me on that) that would check for any fuel additives in the oil. We had an altered that was a few hundreths ahead of us, but he redlighted before the finals that year, at 5 lbs. Last two years we won, once with a powerglide in a vega at 9.5 lbs by .0002, and the next year in a cobalt with a G-force at 11 lbs. by 1 10 thousanths of a second. Just letting you know how deversified, and close it was at different weights, and combos of all types. You have to realise, we had to frame some rules to not exclude cars, because we are in a remote area. But this track has ran no break-out racing since 1967, so we had a base. Touching on the main basics, but you get the drift. The races I'm talking about are the year end BIG SHOOTOUT, in honour of DALE RUFF. A guy that has raced there since it opened, and even won class at Indy in 1970.