Trend in IHRA Stock Elim?

[Dave1695]

I would say Myron is spot on with his analagy; when I looked at Crate Motor Stock about ten years ago, it appeared to be the least expensive way to get back into class racing, (on paper anyway). I don't think that was the case, but because finding correct parts even for an old small block Chevy engine is getting tough and expensive, I chose to go that route and do not regret the decision. It was a great idea for some but not all, and I'm glad Terry Bell and IHRA came up with a new spin on Stock Eliminator. As long as there are blue print specs for the engine used, the class is pretty easy to police. With the introduction of all the Factory Muscle Cars in the class, Stock Eliminator isn't what it once was and never will be again, so change is necessary, and good whether we like it or not. Just my two cents.

[ALMACK]

I had thought about the CM classes at first.
Then I looked at Pure Stock and went that route.

As posted above, the CM entries are easier to find parts for and tend to have more modern internals. ( i.e. roller cams, rockers, modern aluminum heads.)
I can see how this is much more attractive to racers getting started.
Also as posted above, some of those CM entries are as expensive as conventional Stockers.

I am currently looking into updating my PS to NHRA Stock so I can run the combo classes around here.
The tracks with combo races around here are not IHRA friendly...

[dragracer502]

In this part of the world (Southern Ontario / Western New York) , it comes down to $. There is an outstanding Combo series up here. The Can-Am Stock Super Stock series offers 12 dates, with the longest tow to 3 different tracks hosting being 2 1/2 hours. I run a 3rd Gen Camaro in G/CM, best so far is a 10.95 @ 120 and from the time the car rolled in the shop to start the build, untill it was racing I have less than $20k invested. To try and run that car as a "traditional" stocker, with that performance, with that amount invested ...... anyone being honest knows it is not possible. So the short of it is......you do your research, you make your choice, the other guy does the same, and we should all be happy when another stocker gets built.

[ss wannabee]

I guess that explains what's going on...thanks guys!

[KEN BUGAJ]

How many people can chase around the country today, not to many,,
If your going to race close to home where it's IHRA & NHRA
The Crate Motor is the only way to go,
It's the only way a young racer can race now day's...
They can't spend $ 35,000 Plus on a stocker.
Look around at the races How many young people do you see ?
NHRA may end up with Crate Motor's,,
Parts are harder and harder to find for the BB & SB

[Jeremy1374]

Doesn't NHRA allow some aftermarket/replacement parts in stock? Or just SS

[KEN BUGAJ]

Originally Posted by Jeremy1374

Doesn't NHRA allow some aftermarket/replacement parts in stock? Or just SS

Yeah and doing that it's getting closer and closer to a crate motor.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by KEN BUGAJ

How many people can chase around the country today, not to many,,
If your going to race close to home where it's IHRA & NHRA
The Crate Motor is the only way to go,
It's the only way a young racer can race now day's...
They can't spend $ 35,000 Plus on a stocker.
Look around at the races How many young people do you see ?
NHRA may end up with Crate Motor's,,
Parts are harder and harder to find for the BB & SB

Ken....Id be willing to bet that since I left IHRA the majority of the REALLY FAST crate engined stockers are bogus. The few I have seen and hear about have enhanced heads and intakes. Not to mention moved ring lands (allowed now), lite piston and rod assemblys and toyota sized rod journals. Its like building an NHRA engine.

[Jack McCarthy]

id love to race ihra, two races here close...
but i cannot go race where the other 283's are rated at 210 and i am 215 with smaller carb, larger cc's and more deck height... AND they get THE 459 intake !!!!!!!!

baker seems uninterested in my $$ or fairness.

captain jack

lets see what'd i fit with a 502 @ 4500lbs ???
i can diet

[KEN BUGAJ]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Ken....Id be willing to bet that since I left IHRA the majority of the REALLY FAST crate engined stockers are bogus. The few I have seen and hear about have enhanced heads and intakes. Not to mention moved ring lands (allowed now), lite piston and rod assemblys and toyota sized rod journals. Its like building an NHRA engine.

Terry,
We all know who they are, (lol)
Didn't know you could move the top ring ? that's news ?
I know our stuff has been checked at the track and legal,,,
NHRA & IHRA both have bogas stockers ,I bought one and had to spend to fix it !!
What I'm saying is that for a young guy wanting to build a stocker and not spend $ 30,000
the crate motor is the way to go. That's if you have the track's to race.