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Old 09-08-2012, 12:29 PM   #1
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'62 Plymouth 383 2 4bbl? Really?
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Old 09-08-2012, 03:11 PM   #2
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'62 Plymouth 383 2 4bbl? Really?
Interesting that the 383-2/4bbl was an over-the-counter package and was a production OEM offering...

http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...t=37998&page=2

As regards to the World Products block, the only AMC aftermarket block is the Aluminum 401 block, which it would not be legal.

As regards to the availability of AMC OEM parts, they are scarce and difficult to find since due to their low demand, the wrecking yards will crush the cars and send them to the foundry for recycling. The want the space for the more common makes of cars.

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Old 09-08-2012, 04:06 PM   #3
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As regards to the availability of AMC OEM parts, they are scarce and difficult to find since due to their low demand
And what? When you decide to build an AMC you didn't know that? Now they expect "welfare" in the way of new parts? Cam cores don't know what lobe lift is ground on them. AFBs (Edelbrock) and Autolite carbs aren't that hard to find and the newly approved intake is probably rarer than an original.
I'm still waiting for a Super Duty 301 Pontiac block!
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Old 09-08-2012, 07:54 PM   #4
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And what? When you decide to build an AMC you didn't know that? Now they expect "welfare" in the way of new parts? Cam cores don't know what lobe lift is ground on them. AFBs (Edelbrock) and Autolite carbs aren't that hard to find and the newly approved intake is probably rarer than an original.
I'm still waiting for a Super Duty 301 Pontiac block!
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Old 09-08-2012, 08:55 PM   #5
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Here's another one for you Billy...

Check out the most recent spec sheet on the 68 and 69 Ford 428 Cobra Jet engines in the Mustangs, Cougars, Fairlanes and Comets.

Well somehow with a wave of their magical wand, someone in the tech dept recently allowed the P.I. aluminum intake on the 428's for Stock class. Anyone who has ever raced Stock knows that those 428's only came with a cast iron intake. And I'm not talking about the Shelby Mustang, I'm talking about the regular 428 Cobra Jet.

The date on the revision is 8/21/12. It was done by someone with the initials of PC. Anyone know who that is?
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I have been told by some Ford people, that some of the original 50 68 1/2 CJ mustangs had the aluminum intake on them. NHRA for some reason took these away very early. Thats the word on the street

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Here's another one for you Billy...

Check out the most recent spec sheet on the 68 and 69 Ford 428 Cobra Jet engines in the Mustangs, Cougars, Fairlanes and Comets.

Well somehow with a wave of their magical wand, someone in the tech dept recently allowed the P.I. aluminum intake on the 428's for Stock class. Anyone who has ever raced Stock knows that those 428's only came with a cast iron intake. And I'm not talking about the Shelby Mustang, I'm talking about the regular 428 Cobra Jet.

The date on the revision is 8/21/12. It was done by someone with the initials of PC. Anyone know who that is?
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Old 09-09-2012, 12:31 AM   #7
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I have been told by some Ford people, that some of the original 50 68 1/2 CJ mustangs had the aluminum intake on them. NHRA for some reason took these away very early. Thats the word on the street
Hey Tood,what street?
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Thats not true I was at Ford (E&F Engine and Foundry) from 1966 to 1980 at the time this is not true only the 68 early 10 car build by Stroupe had the aluminum intake along with the lite weight valves!


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Old 09-09-2012, 09:13 AM   #9
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Here's another one for you Billy...

Check out the most recent spec sheet on the 68 and 69 Ford 428 Cobra Jet engines in the Mustangs, Cougars, Fairlanes and Comets.

Well somehow with a wave of their magical wand, someone in the tech dept recently allowed the P.I. aluminum intake on the 428's for Stock class. Anyone who has ever raced Stock knows that those 428's only came with a cast iron intake. And I'm not talking about the Shelby Mustang, I'm talking about the regular 428 Cobra Jet.

The date on the revision is 8/21/12. It was done by someone with the initials of PC. Anyone know who that is?
I have always been told that the original 50 Cobra Jets had the PI intake and I'm sure that paperwork exists. I believe that the 68 CJs should get the intake but not the 69s.
PC is Pat Cvengros. Send your letters and hate mail to him.
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Old 09-09-2012, 09:33 AM   #10
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ClassRacer.com has become a powerful sounding board and in my very humble opinion, a Stock Eliminator Rules Committee should be formed within it's members to present to NHRA with a plan to repair Stock Eliminator.
Members with strong voices and knowledge like, Billy Nees, Dwight Southerland, Mark Yacavone and Jeff Teuton are my candidates.
We have a strong coalition, let's use it.
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