Fuel Check What's the point???

[Dave Casey]

I have raced stock elim every year since 1974, never failed fuel check, I am not the best storer or handler of fuel. I buy fuel at my local vp dealer, the track, a friend who sells it etc.

The only time I remember being close was with some c11 that was 1 1/2 years old

I currently use c12 in both my cars

I really don't think this is as bad a situation as it is being made out to be.

The problems that have happened are rare and correctable, someday it will probably happen to me and I will deal with it. Keep fuel check the way it is That's my preferance

[buzzinhalfdozen]

Andys dad, just because they fail you at fuel check doesn't mean they;re accusing you of cheating. I've had several freinds fail fuel check, never once while I was there were they accused of cheating, they were simply told their fuel did not pass. Most all of them politely asked, Why what's not right about it? Most everytime I witnessed they stated it may be old, perhaps in the cell to long, cross contamination ect. never once did I hear a word about cheating. Now years back when there were a few racers running "enhanced" fuels, they were told their fuel was deemed illegal, using that word..."illegal". To me that's being accused of cheating. Just my take on it. Joe

[Andys dad]

My humblest appolgies to the forum members

There is nothing wrong or incorrect about the fuel check process

It does not need to be changed ever

Sorry for my intrusion


Ron

[Crew Chief]

So the fuel check test is flawed? How is it that 99 cars can pass fuel check and 2 fail?

The 2 that fail have a problem, not the testing procedure.

What's the point of checking fuel? To make sure no one is using illegal chemicals like Klotz or Powermist. Yes they do have a test for that too. And I have been told the test does work. Just ask anyone that works fuel check.

[Dave Casey]

"Not that i should speak for anyone but i would think Dan Fletcher,Lang brothers , Biondo's etc.all have one thing in common.,there all great BRACKET RACERS .Like it or not thats what we r doing bracket racing,and i dont want to be bounced for fuel during a BRACKET RACE."

Joe, The performance aspect of stock and super stock make them the popular catagories that they are. Without the performance part, it would be a bracket race and would be nowhere near as popular. The names you mention are certainly great racers, and we could all learn from them. They also have dealt with fuel check and I don't remembering them getting bounced.

[buzzinhalfdozen]

Originally Posted by Andys dad

My humblest appolgies to the forum members

There is nothing wrong or incorrect about the fuel check process

It does not need to be changed ever

Sorry for my intrusion


Ron

I in no way suggested you were wrong on questioning the validity of the testing procedures. I merely stated they are not accusing you of cheating if you fail fuel check. I do however stand by my statement that if you're having trouble passing with a paticular brand of fuel try another brand. I buy my fuel by the 55 gallon drum, I realize some cannot or don't care to purchase such a large quantity but I like to have some control over how it's stored and how old it actually is. I'm sorry if my comments offened you. Joe

[Dan Fletcher]

I would vote for random checks during qualifying and only for heads up runs in eliminations, but as someone said earlier, sometimes its not done on a heads up run. EVERY TIME there is a heads up run in eliminations there needs to be scales and fuel check. I remember winning a late round heads up one time in Atlanta years ago, and I had gotten out to actually push the car to the scales, 'cause I knew I'd be dead on and didn't want to burn a drop of gas. When they started motioning me by, I didn't agrue, I just hauled ***, lol.

[KRatcliff]

You probably sweated out the difference.

[Toby Lang]

Originally Posted by Dan Fletcher

I would vote for random checks during qualifying and only for heads up runs in eliminations, but as someone said earlier, sometimes its not done on a heads up run. [b]EVERY TIME there is a heads up run in eliminations there needs to be scales and fuel check.[/b I remember winning a late round heads up one time in Atlanta years ago, and I had gotten out to actually push the car to the scales, 'cause I knew I'd be dead on and didn't want to burn a drop of gas. When they started motioning me by, I didn't agrue, I just hauled ***, lol.

I guess you and I are the only ones this has ever happened to, Dan. It's happened to me at least two or three times, both on the winning and losing ends.

What's to stop somebody from checking if they have the scales blocked off before they have a heads-up race and taking out a hundred or so pounds before they go up to the lanes?

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Dave Casey

I have raced stock elim every year since 1974, never failed fuel check, I am not the best storer or handler of fuel. I buy fuel at my local vp dealer, the track, a friend who sells it etc.

The only time I remember being close was with some c11 that was 1 1/2 years old

I currently use c12 in both my cars

I really don't think this is as bad a situation as it is being made out to be.

The problems that have happened are rare and correctable, someday it will probably happen to me and I will deal with it. Keep fuel check the way it is That's my preferance

Dave, it does seem to be a bigger problem down here with the high heat and humidity.