Tires for Stick Car

[Geddes]

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[Ed Wright]

In my limited experience the Hoosiers have lasted longer.

[LNorton]

Ed, How many runs could you get on a set of Hoosiers before they started losing 60'. I was at about 110 runs on this set.

[Michael Beard]

Stick or not, you should be getting a lot more mileage out of your tires, particularly on an I/PS entry. I was at 108 runs on my 9x30" M/T Radials when the rear end let loose last weekend... and every 60' was a 1.47x.

On M/T bias plys with my bracket car (low 1.6x 60's), I typically get 300+ runs, and they hook all the way to the cords.

Burnouts are fun, but there's a chance that you're overdoing it. I watched a couple launches at Motor Mile, but admit that I wasn't paying attention to your burnout procedure.

[Jeremy1374]

M/T's are the way to go. We can second Mikes statement about the M/T hooking to the cords. We have Hoosier radials and we couldnt get them to hook consistantly at Pitts this weekend. Got new M/T stick shift skins on the way.

BTW the Hoosiers half 50% life on them.

[LNorton]

I do a pretty small burnout in the bird. Just get it up on the tire and come out of the water as soon as they start smoking.

I will admit that we have only put 35 runs on the car so far this year, but they have all been in the last 3 weeks. And after the first 10 the 60' times started getting very inconsistent. Iam used to seeing the car move .02 during the day, but down at Motor Mile during the last 20 runs i saw as much as a .08 difference from run to run with the same setup.

Normally I rotate them side to side after about 10-15 runs, but they are starting to need to be rotated every 5 runs. They are about shot.

I know that I am not going to get the same amount of runs as an automatic car, because this thing crushes the tire on the line. Hits the tire harder than our Super Gas car ever did.

The only thing pushing me away from M/T is the price, because we get a pretty good deal on Hoosiers. I would work with a $50 total difference or around there, because I will get that back with a class win at MIR on the M/Ts.

I'm just kinda lost, because this thing was deadly 60' last year.

Wow, that was long winded...

EDIT: Forgot to mention, 60' Times are in the low 1.7x range. Will be high 1.6x when we get the tune up worked out.

[LNorton]

Also, can you run M/T bias ply tires without tubes? We have never run a tube in a Hoosier. And the last tire manufactuer we used was Firestone in the 80's!

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by LNorton

Ed, How many runs could you get on a set of Hoosiers before they started losing 60'. I was at about 110 runs on this set.

I never counted runs. I ran them all summer when I was bracket racing. Just bought new tires every spring. I have some friends & customers that have used the MTs, and for their cars they weren't as consistent, nor lasted as long. Other cars love them. My car slowed 5/100 in 60' with MTs, in A-B-A testing against the Hoosiers. Both were 10.5" stiff sidewall bias tires. Mike & Paula Cotton were there, and I think Mike was as suprised as I. In Super Stock trim, I haven't had any tire spin issues at all with the radials. Many cars do just fine with MTs. Just need to find what your car likes. I never had the Hoosiers 60' times degrade, even when the wear holes were gone.

[NovaMan]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

In Super Stock trim, I haven't had any tire spin issues at all with the radials.

Really? Is it a stick car?

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by NovaMan

Really? Is it a stick car?

Sorry I wasn't clear, no it's an automatic. I was responding to his question about differences in tire wear.