Original hemi dart information

[Liteweight]

OK This is the information I have been able to compile on Wild Fire through different sources

-Tim Wing purchased the car new through Town & Country Dodge in Farmington,MI. He picked it up from Chrysler. Car is an auto
-Bob Alton partnered with Tim on it
-First paint was Blue & Silver
-Repainted in 69. Silver was masked over & blue was repainted to red by Findley Jackson
-One of the engines was a Ramcharger built mill
-Sold in 1970? to Jack Schneider from Canton, Ohio. Don't know if this was the owner at the time the video was made of it.
-It then sold again to someone out east to someone that owned a Sunoco Station.Supposidly ran the car out of Cecil County Raceways.
- It then kind of vanishes.

There is rumour that Bruce Meiuls (from Rod Shop Dodge fame) partnered up with Larry Morgan & purchased a red & silver Hemi Dart. It was disassembled.
-Supposidly Carol Fink from Finks Used Cars purchased it & is still owned by him today.

Is it the same car??? I don't know. But I'm pretty sure that Wild Fire is not in my shop. What leads me to believe that??? There is a center hood pin that was installed at the center rear side of the hood. I have looked very close at mine, even on the backside with mirrors, & I can't find any traces of that hole being repaired on my car.





Next????????

liteweight

[Hemi Moose]

Originally Posted by Liteweight

Next????????

liteweight

Liteweight, the only other Red & Silver L023 that I can think of was the "Cookie Duster" Hemi Dart...but I don't recall what type of transmission it had.

(also see if you can post some of those other small pdf file photos that you have of other L023's from your earlier posts)

[Liteweight]

These are the only 2 pictures I have of Cookie Duster. They weren't PDF, just saved as, from ebay auction & ????. I tryed resizing, but they just lose they're clarity.Anyone ???
If you look at the C piller on the first picture it looks like it has a SS/B designation.





Welcome to my nightmare

liteweight

[Hemi Moose]

There's a guy on ebay that sells old race photos , he may have a duplicate of the first one...

And that last photo of the Cookie Duster is a Bill Truby photo...there has to be a larger original one of it out there somewhere, anyone.


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[Charlie A]

Any possibility there was a twin(not a tribute) Wildfire Dart? (or any other that might be yours)

Overbooked pros used duplicate painted cars with other drivers from time to time.

There was only one Ronnie Sox but there were several "Sox&Martin" cars on the tracks.

Just wondering.

[JCShiels]

Just a clarification Daryl that may help in tracing your car's past, am I correct in stating that prior to 1985 the car was tubbed and the narrow Dana axle installed on relocated springs? The fact that the trunk lid is held down with pins indicates the removal of the hinges/torsion springs when the stock wheel houses were removed. It is interesting that such a simple thing as an extra hood pin could be such a positive indentification point. I can't imagine anyone but the most fussy restorer even trying to repair that hole in the cowl, there would be no point to fill it, so I am convinced that your conclusion about WildFire is correct. I would still like to know what happened to that car, but that is secondary to your quest for the history of your car.

[Liteweight]

Originally Posted by JCShiels

Just a clarification Daryl that may help in tracing your car's past, am I correct in stating that prior to 1985 the car was tubbed and the narrow Dana axle installed on relocated springs? The fact that the trunk lid is held down with pins indicates the removal of the hinges/torsion springs when the stock wheel houses were removed. It is interesting that such a simple thing as an extra hood pin could be such a positive indentification point. I can't imagine anyone but the most fussy restorer even trying to repair that hole in the cowl, there would be no point to fill it, so I am convinced that your conclusion about WildFire is correct. I would still like to know what happened to that car, but that is secondary to your quest for the history of your car.

Jim you are correct. The car was mini tubbed. The inners were replaced with tubs & placed against the frame rails, but the outers were left original. Tim Hennessey removed the inners in 1986 & reinstalled original tubs with a filler to still accept a large tire. He also reinstalled all the hinge parts including the torsion bars so the trunk lid is 100% functional.


On a side note, the forward sections of the quarter panel wheel well were also opened to accept taller tires & remain to this day.
Tim Hennessey did an over the top restoration on it in 1986, but I can tell you just about every repaired mod that was done to it. There's very little I don't know bout this thing, cause I've taken it down to a bare shell, & redid everything cept the paint. It wears the same paint that was applied back in 86.
Your right. Something as minute as a hood pin is the difference in finding a cars background. Since these things were old war horses & are 44 years old there is just very little documentation/ pictures on some of these individual cars. You gotta find the small things & compare. I've been searching for bout 10 years for this things history. I think I am now kinda polished in it

liteweight

[Hemi Moose]

Here's another old ad with Arlen Vanke's '68 Hemi Barracuda...

[Liteweight]

Originally Posted by Charlie A

Any possibility there was a twin(not a tribute) Wildfire Dart? (or any other that might be yours)

Overbooked pros used duplicate painted cars with other drivers from time to time.

There was only one Ronnie Sox but there were several "Sox&Martin" cars on the tracks.

Just wondering.

Charlie
Possible, but not likely. As J Schiels has previously posted Tim & Bob were a small race team with very little backing.They were mechanics in the Town & Country Dodge dealership. When I spoke with Tim, he didn't mention a second car.
A second car probably isn't likely

liteweight

[JCShiels]

Originally Posted by Liteweight

Charlie
Possible, but not likely. As J Schiels has previously posted Tim & Bob were a small race team with very little backing.They were mechanics in the Town & Country Dodge dealership. When I spoke with Tim, he didn't mention a second car.
A second car probably isn't likely

liteweight

There was no second car, no possible way.