HP adjustments after the Dutch - posted

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by boster

This is about a car going 1.20 under and on the qualifying sheet , then saying it had the wrong heads and no consequences for the party involved .

My buddy at the race went 1.201 under and got HP and was not torn down .He thinks the timing system could have been off by a thousands or two but he still got hp as did 3 other cars . The 402 should have got HP according to the rules .

I have no axe to grind or no intent to disrespect Brian Tilburg or the driver of the Nova my issiue is with the rule and how it was interpertid at the event .

So now for the record if you dont pass tech 1.20 runs dont count ? what happens if you dont get torn down they count ? so if you make a mistake and dont get caught then its ok ? and if you make a mistake and come clean at tear down you dont get punished for the mistake ?

Thats not how it work for me at the races

So a guy running a legal car should get HP because a guy running a car with the same combination that won't pass tech went fast? That's how it works for you at the races?

[boster]

No , thats how it works in your world . In my world I get a year off and HP . Wow you really could not bring yourself to say illegal car could you. LMAO

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by boster

No , thats how it works in your world . In my world I get a year off and HP . Wow you really could not bring yourself to say illegal car could you. LMAO

Bo, it is you that claims the 402 Nova should get HP, despite the car not passing tech, it is not me.

[boster]

Alan , the only thing Im claiming is the rules should be the same for everyone and that's not what happened at the Dutch .

Instead of racer's complaining that the rules are not same for everyone we are bickering between our selves about who's right and who's wrong .

We should be talking about why the rules arent the same for everyone.

Simple example's

At the Dutch not every car that went 1.20 under was not torn down . Why were some and others not ?

Why does one driver with the wrong vales get supenden and other not ?

A few years ago a 428 cj went 1.20 under at a div1 race and got hp but was light at the scales still got the hp.

That's what concerns me, yes I think based on what I have seen and experinced the nova should get the HP

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by boster

Alan , the only thing Im claiming is the rules should be the same for everyone and that's not what happened at the Dutch .

Instead of racer's complaining that the rules are not same for everyone we are bickering between our selves about who's right and who's wrong .

We should be talking about why the rules arent the same for everyone.

Simple example's

At the Dutch not every car that went 1.20 under was not torn down . Why were some and others not ?

Why does one driver with the wrong vales get supenden and other not ?

A few years ago a 428 cj went 1.20 under at a div1 race and got hp but was light at the scales still got the hp.

That's what concerns me, yes I think based on what I have seen and experinced the nova should get the HP

So, rather than make things right for everyone, they should make things wrong for everyone. Got it.

Oh, and by the way, there was a Ford that had the wrong valves who only got bounced at Indy a while back, too.

It's entirely possible the cars to be torn down were chosen before qualifying, that's fairly common. You don't have to be fadt to be torn down.

[SS/GSI]

I don't know the racer in question, and I don't want to seem like I'm just picking on this one racer; however, everyone knows the rules when it comes to drawing attention to themselves when going fast and qualifying at the top of the sheet. You get torndown, you better be legal, for better or for worst. What I don't understand, and PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong, the racer in question goes 1.20 under + , and what doesn't think he's going to the barn at a race notorious for record runs and teardown? On top of that, we have a debatable performance gain or loss issue due to the exhaust valve situation, whatever. So what I want to know is why there was no year suspension for a clear violation of the engine specs. No HP, no repercussions, BO is right, why is it a case by case issue when the rules are black and white. I've seen and heard too many racers get more than this for less. My opinion to this racer, you wanna go fast you better make sure your engine "assembler" keeps you out of trouble or hope for the best. You got lucky.

[novassdude]

Originally Posted by boster

Alan , the only thing Im claiming is the rules should be the same for everyone and that's not what happened at the Dutch .

Instead of racer's complaining that the rules are not same for everyone we are bickering between our selves about who's right and who's wrong .

We should be talking about why the rules arent the same for everyone.

Simple example's

At the Dutch not every car that went 1.20 under was not torn down . Why were some and others not ?

Why does one driver with the wrong vales get supenden and other not ?

A few years ago a 428 cj went 1.20 under at a div1 race and got hp but was light at the scales still got the hp.

That's what concerns me, yes I think based on what I have seen and experinced the nova should get the HP

I disagree that the nova should have got horsepower with the wrong heads. But the driver should have been parked for a year.

All 1.20 under runs should get checked before the automatic hp.

[TILBURG]

Lets not all get caught up in this 402 deal! Did you guys see that the 262 in a monza got 6hp. Guess we cant go there!lmfao

[Crew Chief]

Originally Posted by boster

At the Dutch not every car that went 1.20 under was not torn down . Why were some and others not ?

Probably because it is not mandatory that those that go 1.20 under be torn down. Until it becomes mandatory by the sanctioning body, some will be torn down and some will not.

[BLAZER]

This is the same old S--T,NHRA class racing will never be the same since nhra and manufactures wanted and allowed BOGUS H/P in--Cheating has been around since--day1--junior johnson built my 2 motor years ago--chevy orange when i brought them in--gray when i picked em up BTW fast in the day!