HP adjustments after the Dutch - posted

[Bruce Noland]

A racer does not have to pass any form of a technical inspection before receiving any type of adjustment from the ahfs. But the division tech staff can ask for a technical inspection at any time. That is what happened in this instance. The tech guy rolled up and asked the racer to take his car to the barn. The racer instantly agreed.

[Jim Whitehead]

BO : Do they really need to spell it all out in the AHFS If you follow the stock- ss Guide the car should pass tech at any time. Along with min weight

[Gary Parker]

I have been going through the rule book and need some help Bo. I can not find it anywhere stating that runs made by cars found to be illeagle count. Please tell me where it says cars that are found to be illeagle can race and set records.. I just do not see it anywhere.... Thanks Gary Parker

[cambria]

Not that I have a burning desire to get involved in this discussion but does it not make sense to not count a combo that is illegal because of its impact on others who are running the same combo legally? That being said it would seem logical however that some form of penalty may be imposed for having an illegal combo and that would address the situation.Also i dont think it is possibe to simply avoid the scales and avoid the HP otherwise when you got the time ticket you would just drive by the scale and never worry about HP.

[Stocker 2]

This is what seems to happen.

If you go 1.20 or more under the index either in qualifying or eliminations you get horsepower (or index hit) on Tuesday morning. The car is weighed, fuel checked, and engine torn down. If any of the three are found to be wrong, the run is ruled illegal and the automatic hit does not happen.

In the past cars have went 1.20 or more under at a race and it was not noticed until after the race was over. Even though no post-run tech occurred at the race, the horsepower hit still was applied.

However if a car IS found wrong in the post-run inspection, no horsepower hit is applied. That happened at two races recently, the Dutch Classic and the Jeg's Northern Sportsnationals. Both cars in question were found illegal in teardown so no horsepower was put on either combination.

Kudos to the tech dept for doing their job.

[SS/GSI]

Originally Posted by Stocker 2

However if a car IS found wrong in the post-run inspection, no horsepower hit is applied. That happened at two races recently, the Dutch Classic and the Jeg's Northern Sportsnationals. Both cars in question were found illegal in teardown so no horsepower was put on either combination.

Kudos to the tech dept for doing their job.

"Kudos" REALLY! The racer(s) above mentioned got away with zero HP and no penalty, WTF! Some of us work hard and spend a lot of time/money to TRY and go fast, and trust me if we were off a thou we would be gone in a heartbeat. I'm sorry, but saying you made a mistake or didn't know, doesn't exonerate you from punishment. At worst I would have expected NHRA to say, off the record, "pick your poison", 6-12 months or the HP, something! Maybe there was a bias due to the assembler??? I know if it would have been a hand full of other engine builders, the outcome would not have been the same, just guessing. Next time, if you don't know what's under your hood and don't wanna take the consequences of putting trust in your assembler, DUMP @ the 1000' every time! Not hard, half the guys out there do it.

[Chuck Beach]

Who signed the tech card for the entered car at that race? I believe it spells out who is responsible ...

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by SS/GSI

"Kudos" REALLY! The racer(s) above mentioned got away with zero HP and no penalty, WTF! Some of us work hard and spend a lot of time/money to TRY and go fast, and trust me if we were off a thou we would be gone in a heartbeat. I'm sorry, but saying you made a mistake or didn't know, doesn't exonerate you from punishment. At worst I would have expected NHRA to say, off the record, "pick your poison", 6-12 months or the HP, something! Maybe there was a bias due to the assembler??? I know if it would have been a hand full of other engine builders, the outcome would not have been the same, just guessing. Next time, if you don't know what's under your hood and don't wanna take the consequences of putting trust in your assembler, DUMP @ the 1000' every time! Not hard, half the guys out there do it.

I think you may be getting ahead of the story! The racer at the Dutch was told that he would be receiving a letter from Glendora. And, the content of that letter is between the racer and nhra. A racer never gets his/her dose of "poison" at the race.