Rules amendments 2013

[JRyan]

Just fabricate a notch into the seat frame, have it upholstered over and put the shifter where you want it...Been done for years

Right on Yac. Mom did that for me on the '50 Olds back in 1967.

Jerry

[Rory McNeil]

I wonder how much safer a lightweight, seat, with lightweight home made mounting brackets , installed by a hobbyist in his garage , would be than a seat and track system designed by SAE engineers, crash tested by the factory, and meant to last for many years. This seat deal kinda reminds me of the aftermarket brakes that were lobbied for years by racers who removed the heavy factory front disc brakes their cars came with, replaced them with tiny 4 or 6 cylinder brakes, and then complained they couldn`t stop safetly anymore.

[Alan Roehrich]

The seats in our old cars are designed for 170 pound people in 45MPH crashes.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

I wonder how much safer a lightweight, seat, with lightweight home made mounting brackets , installed by a hobbyist in his garage , would be than a seat and track system designed by SAE engineers, crash tested by the factory, and meant to last for many years.

Good point, Rory
Kinda makes me wonder if these people installing the new seats are the same ones who can't possibly notch an OEM seat for a shifter, weld up a seat track mechanism so it won't move, strip down a seat and gusset the weak points, cut a slot through the back for a Y harness, secure the seat back against the roll bar brace so it can't move rearward or beef up the ORIGINAL mounting, if so needed?

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Good point, Rory
Kinda makes me wonder if these people installing the new seats are the same ones who can't possibly notch an OEM seat for a shifter, weld up a seat track mechanism so it won't move, strip down a seat and gusset the weak points, cut a slot through the back for a Y harness, secure the seat back against the roll bar brace so it can't move rearward or beef up the ORIGINAL mounting, if so needed?

Yea because doing all that suddenly makes a 40 yr old seat not made out of 40 yr old steel. Btw who here can tell me without a doubt that their stock seats were never in a crash that could have compromised them?

[69Cobra]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Good point, Rory
Kinda makes me wonder if these people installing the new seats are the same ones who can't possibly notch an OEM seat for a shifter, weld up a seat track mechanism so it won't move, strip down a seat and gusset the weak points, cut a slot through the back for a Y harness, secure the seat back against the roll bar brace so it can't move rearward or beef up the ORIGINAL mounting, if so needed?

Hey Mark,
Do you have an extra factory bench seat for a 69 Cobra laying around that you could donate to this cause? I'm not going to cut up and alter the ORIGINAL seat for this car. You guys are worried about people installing the aftermarket seats safely and correctly but you are recommending that I cut up and the factory seat frame to notch it for the shifter? Which will more than likely be a weak point in a crash?

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by 69Cobra

Hey Mark,
Do you have an extra factory bench seat for a 69 Cobra laying around that you could donate to this cause? I'm not going to cut up and alter the ORIGINAL seat for this car. You guys are worried about people installing the aftermarket seats safely and correctly but you are recommending that I cut up and the factory seat frame to notch it for the shifter? Which will more than likely be a weak point in a crash?

Kris, pretty sure you wouldn't have had to use an original Cobra seat, the way the rules were.
...and as far as the notching...That all depends on who's doing it...same as the mounting of the new seats or seat , singular . I guess you don't even need matching style front seats any more...Just like Bracket II.

[Tony Janes]

Not quite like bracket 2 but close. You still have an index to work from.

Originally Posted by Tony Janes

Not quite like bracket 2 but close. You still have an index to work from.

And don't forget heads up and qualifying. Plus most cars at a bracket race have the technology of cement mixers.


The seat thing is done, like it or not. The interiors of the cars will not look as cool, but will be much safer. It's real simple, if you don't want to change don't. I'll take the 60 pound savings, that should make that pill a little easier to swallow for me.
These rules are changing, whether we like it or not

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