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Old 11-17-2012, 03:36 PM   #1
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I wonder how much safer a lightweight, seat, with lightweight home made mounting brackets , installed by a hobbyist in his garage , would be than a seat and track system designed by SAE engineers, crash tested by the factory, and meant to last for many years.
Good point, Rory
Kinda makes me wonder if these people installing the new seats are the same ones who can't possibly notch an OEM seat for a shifter, weld up a seat track mechanism so it won't move, strip down a seat and gusset the weak points, cut a slot through the back for a Y harness, secure the seat back against the roll bar brace so it can't move rearward or beef up the ORIGINAL mounting, if so needed?
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Old 11-17-2012, 03:58 PM   #2
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Good point, Rory
Kinda makes me wonder if these people installing the new seats are the same ones who can't possibly notch an OEM seat for a shifter, weld up a seat track mechanism so it won't move, strip down a seat and gusset the weak points, cut a slot through the back for a Y harness, secure the seat back against the roll bar brace so it can't move rearward or beef up the ORIGINAL mounting, if so needed?
Yea because doing all that suddenly makes a 40 yr old seat not made out of 40 yr old steel. Btw who here can tell me without a doubt that their stock seats were never in a crash that could have compromised them?
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Old 11-17-2012, 04:45 PM   #3
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Good point, Rory
Kinda makes me wonder if these people installing the new seats are the same ones who can't possibly notch an OEM seat for a shifter, weld up a seat track mechanism so it won't move, strip down a seat and gusset the weak points, cut a slot through the back for a Y harness, secure the seat back against the roll bar brace so it can't move rearward or beef up the ORIGINAL mounting, if so needed?
Hey Mark,
Do you have an extra factory bench seat for a 69 Cobra laying around that you could donate to this cause? I'm not going to cut up and alter the ORIGINAL seat for this car. You guys are worried about people installing the aftermarket seats safely and correctly but you are recommending that I cut up and the factory seat frame to notch it for the shifter? Which will more than likely be a weak point in a crash?
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:58 PM   #4
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Hey Mark,
Do you have an extra factory bench seat for a 69 Cobra laying around that you could donate to this cause? I'm not going to cut up and alter the ORIGINAL seat for this car. You guys are worried about people installing the aftermarket seats safely and correctly but you are recommending that I cut up and the factory seat frame to notch it for the shifter? Which will more than likely be a weak point in a crash?
Kris, pretty sure you wouldn't have had to use an original Cobra seat, the way the rules were.
...and as far as the notching...That all depends on who's doing it...same as the mounting of the new seats or seat , singular . I guess you don't even need matching style front seats any more...Just like Bracket II.
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Not quite like bracket 2 but close. You still have an index to work from.
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Not quite like bracket 2 but close. You still have an index to work from.
And don't forget heads up and qualifying. Plus most cars at a bracket race have the technology of cement mixers.


The seat thing is done, like it or not. The interiors of the cars will not look as cool, but will be much safer. It's real simple, if you don't want to change don't. I'll take the 60 pound savings, that should make that pill a little easier to swallow for me.
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I guess you don't even need matching style front seats any more...Just like Bracket II.
That's a good idea... maybe I run the Kirkey on the driver side and a Jazz on the passenger side... Just like Bracket II
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..... I guess you don't even need matching style front seats any more...Just like Bracket II.
WRONG!!!!!! Both seats have to match. Just ask the S/S guys who tried to get away with a minature Kirkey on the passenger side.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:35 PM   #10
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I think the seat rule grand fathers in all the new cars ( because those cars in the show room dont gots aftermarket seats ) and its an added safety thing . I did get a chance to sit in some of the newer cars with the newer seats and they are nice . I am not sure how the copo seats would look in a 67 camaro ? The 3speed rule is only for the glide replacement , I dont think you can swap a 3 speed auto in a car that had 4speed stick only as was asked about earlier . Hey Bob you if you put front seats in the wagon you can just run N/sa .....lol....
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