GM Releases 2013 bogus HP ratings at PRI show

[Ed Wright]

Do you actually race with us? I doubt it. If so, you have not been paying attention. There are DPs that started out in H/SA. In Super Stock we have them down as far as SS /JA. Probably lower that I have not seen. It is an easy way for checkbook racers with no experience to get fast quick and easy.

Besides, the HP rating in Stock is not what they are supposed to be making on the track with blueprinting and the camshafts and valve springs now allowed, but what they are supposed to put out from the factory. You don't appear to have a very good understanding of what we are doing.

[Jim Wahl]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Do you actually race with us? I doubt it. If so, you have not been paying attention. There are DPs that started out in H/SA. In Super Stock we have them down as far as SS /JA. Probably lower that I have not seen. It is an easy way for checkbook racers with no experience to get fast quick and easy.

Besides, the HP rating in Stock is not what they are supposed to be making on the track with blueprinting and the camshafts and valve springs now allowed, but what they are supposed to put out from the factory. You don't appear to have a very good understanding of what we are doing.

Actually one of the CJ combos started off in J/S Ed. Jim

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[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl

Actually one of the CJ combos started off in J/S Ed. Jim

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Wow!

[Rat Raceway]

For a new guy that is getting ready to start racing Stock in 2013. Why are the "new cars" unfair?

Do they not get grouped in with the others that are of the same power?

I just saw that the 4.0 blower 327 COPO's has had the HP rating changed due to faster times. Is the adjustment nowhere close to where it needs to be? (I'm guessing not after reading the other posts here?)

Is there a place that has Class racing info for the Newbie? The info I have found is awful.

[Mike Carr]

Originally Posted by Rat Raceway

For a new guy that is getting ready to start racing Stock in 2013. Why are the "new cars" unfair?

Do they not get grouped in with the others that are of the same power?

I just saw that the 4.0 blower 327 COPO's has had the HP rating changed due to faster times. Is the adjustment nowhere close to where it needs to be? (I'm guessing not after reading the other posts here?)

Is there a place that has Class racing info for the Newbie? The info I have found is awful.

They are supposed to be grouped with cars at similar ratings, usually. Take the 5.7 liter Hemi DP. Started out at 305 hp, in F/SA, June 2010. It got an adjustment the first race out. A year later it was 404. Now, it's 417 or something, runs BB and CC, and can STILL qualify near the top. Some of the new cars are close to what many would consider a fair rating. Others...not as close.

[Tom Moock]

Jim Wahl, one of cj conv. started out in L/SA and K/S not J. Tom

[Jim Wahl]

Originally Posted by Tom Moock

Jim Wahl, one of cj conv. started out in L/SA and K/S not J. Tom

After doing some research, yes, you are correct.Jim


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[Sean Cour]

My Ipad is starting to weep again.......

[NBD MGT]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

It is an easy way for checkbook racers with no experience to get fast quick and easy.

It seems like this is what's really got everyone pissed off.

Since everyone seems to agree that all stockers make more HP than they are rated at, there is no basis to complain about bogus numbers right?

I keep hearing complaints of new car dominance but if that's the case why do older cars hold almost all of the national records?

Out of all the NHRA events this past summer, what is the breakdown of wins by new cars vs. older cars? What's the breakdown of top-10 qualifiers, old vs. new?

Also wondering whether anyone actually knows how many people raced in Stock in 2008 (when all the supposed troubles began) and how many do now?

Just trying to get this because I am newly interested in NHRA racing so I'm "walking in the door today", so to speak, and If I started to race it'd be with a car that was produced during my lifetime.

[Ed Wright]

You are simply too clueless to converse with.

Why don't you man up and use your real name.