No lift division race

Kegracing · 02-20-2013, 11:45 AM

Philbilly... Spoken like a old bracket racer! And I mean that in a good way!

Ken

Casey Miles · 02-20-2013, 11:59 AM

It doesn't matter what the person in the other lane is doing if you cut a light and run your number. The problem sets in when the person in the other lane is hiding the performance of the car so that they "don't get horsepower". This way they have the advantage over another competitor in a heads up race. NHRA should be doing their homework and take the 1/8 mile ET's, MPH and adjust HP to the vehicle from that point of the track, not the 1/4 mile ET, MPH. There would be alot less 1000' racers then, they would have go to the 330' not to show their hand. Good luck on dialing in from the 330' for a 1/4 mile race.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA STOCK

sammy pizzolato · 02-20-2013, 12:16 PM

that's why if you make the rule that you can only go one tenth faster then your fastest time on the Q sheet even in a head's up race.so at that point a racer would have to show some kind of performance so he don't get burned on a head's up run. that would get rid of the 1000 ft qualifing.

Casey Miles · 02-20-2013, 02:14 PM

What's not to say that the drivers of the cars that have to race each other heads up make a deal not to race further then the 1000' so that they don't show the performance of the cars. You have to remember that there are factory cars out there now that aren't even close to their potential as far as HP being added to them. So why not make the deal with the other drivers of the same factory cars? They are in a win win situation, race to the 1000' and lift, no one gets HP. Make them race to the 330' not to get HP would work best.

Casey Miles
248H "F" NHRA Stock!

art leong · 02-20-2013, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammy pizzolato

that's why if you make the rule that you can only go one tenth faster then your fastest time on the Q sheet even in a head's up race.so at that point a racer would have to show some kind of performance so he don't get burned on a head's up run. that would get rid of the 1000 ft qualifing.

Sammy that would not work. On Sunday my car picked up .25 in the eight mile over Saturday night. And I changed nothing.
Except my drawers (LOL), after I saw the time slip.

sammy pizzolato · 02-20-2013, 05:43 PM

it is just an idea something to keep this thread going.years ago everybody ran off of the record with a tenth under break out we all know that was only good for two or three cars in the nation.

Ed Wright · 02-20-2013, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammy pizzolato

it is just an idea something to keep this thread going.years ago everybody ran off of the record with a tenth under break out we all know that was only good for two or three cars in the nation.

I liked it that way. I won points races a tenth off the record, and was closer to it than anybody else there. Jack Mullins with his big old Pontiac wagon could run under more than often anybody else I knew.

MikeFicacci · 02-20-2013, 05:57 PM

I think you guys are going about this wrong. Instead of penalizing people, calculating 1000-foot times, or setting more rules, a much more diplomatic approach would be to simple give people motivation to keep their foot on the floor all the way to the 1320 be it points for qualifying or points for records. Instead of the NHRA throwing more rules our way, a points bonus substantial enough will slowly force the professional racers and swinging d*cks to put their name at the top of the sheet or in the records books. The advantages of awarding points for qualifications (and maybe records too) far outweigh the day it will take to write the code in the program that calculates points.

02-20-2013, 11:45 AM	#1
Kegracing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Red Oak, TX Posts: 441 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: No lift division race Philbilly... Spoken like a old bracket racer! And I mean that in a good way! Ken

02-20-2013, 11:59 AM	#2
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 706 Likes: 128 Liked 508 Times in 92 Posts	Re: No lift division race It doesn't matter what the person in the other lane is doing if you cut a light and run your number. The problem sets in when the person in the other lane is hiding the performance of the car so that they "don't get horsepower". This way they have the advantage over another competitor in a heads up race. NHRA should be doing their homework and take the 1/8 mile ET's, MPH and adjust HP to the vehicle from that point of the track, not the 1/4 mile ET, MPH. There would be alot less 1000' racers then, they would have go to the 330' not to show their hand. Good luck on dialing in from the 330' for a 1/4 mile race. Casey Miles 248H "F" NHRA STOCK Last edited by Casey Miles; 02-20-2013 at 12:00 PM. Reason: spelling

02-20-2013, 12:16 PM	#3
sammy pizzolato Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: houma louisiana Posts: 432 Likes: 52 Liked 56 Times in 13 Posts	Re: No lift division race that's why if you make the rule that you can only go one tenth faster then your fastest time on the Q sheet even in a head's up race.so at that point a racer would have to show some kind of performance so he don't get burned on a head's up run. that would get rid of the 1000 ft qualifing.

02-20-2013, 02:14 PM	#4
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 706 Likes: 128 Liked 508 Times in 92 Posts	Re: No lift division race What's not to say that the drivers of the cars that have to race each other heads up make a deal not to race further then the 1000' so that they don't show the performance of the cars. You have to remember that there are factory cars out there now that aren't even close to their potential as far as HP being added to them. So why not make the deal with the other drivers of the same factory cars? They are in a win win situation, race to the 1000' and lift, no one gets HP. Make them race to the 330' not to get HP would work best. Casey Miles 248H "F" NHRA Stock!

02-20-2013, 05:43 PM	#6
sammy pizzolato Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: houma louisiana Posts: 432 Likes: 52 Liked 56 Times in 13 Posts	Re: No lift division race it is just an idea something to keep this thread going.years ago everybody ran off of the record with a tenth under break out we all know that was only good for two or three cars in the nation.

02-20-2013, 05:57 PM	#8
MikeFicacci Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 242 Likes: 1 Liked 19 Times in 2 Posts	Re: No lift division race I think you guys are going about this wrong. Instead of penalizing people, calculating 1000-foot times, or setting more rules, a much more diplomatic approach would be to simple give people motivation to keep their foot on the floor all the way to the 1320 be it points for qualifying or points for records. Instead of the NHRA throwing more rules our way, a points bonus substantial enough will slowly force the professional racers and swinging d*cks to put their name at the top of the sheet or in the records books. The advantages of awarding points for qualifications (and maybe records too) far outweigh the day it will take to write the code in the program that calculates points. __________________ Mike Ficacci Stk 1010

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