Injector question

Ed Wright · 03-07-2013, 10:35 PM

[QUOTE=KRatcliff;372313]The Venom 30lb injectors that you can get new off Ebay are $299.99 and would be darn close to the Ford Racing injectors as far as your needs. I think they flow slightly more than the Ford's according to Jeff Warren, but it wouldn't cause you any problems.[/]

I would avoid those. Very high failure rates, and too often don't flow as rated. I have seen so many problems with those I now refuse to tune a car with them. Stick with Bosch or Lucus if your not going to use the originals.

mopar jeff · 03-08-2013, 01:00 PM

That is about 1/2 price Kyle, but maybe I should take my chance on a used set of Bosch, which will even be half of the Venoms.

KRatcliff · 03-08-2013, 06:21 PM

I prefer the Ford Racing/Bosch if you can find them, but that is the problem. We haven't had any problems with the Venoms, but YMMV.

Ed Wright · 03-08-2013, 06:35 PM

I have customers (shops) with the bench top injector cleaners/flow testers that have found over 5% variation in sets of those, and a lot of failures. Some just quit working and sticking open. Accel used to have the same issues with their solid yellow injectors before changing to Bosch a few years ago. Their Bosch injectors have yellow tops, and bare steel bottoms.

KRatcliff · 03-08-2013, 06:58 PM

I have had that much variation in the Ford Racing injectors. That is why I have flowed mine and put together matched sets.

Ed Wright · 03-08-2013, 08:10 PM

I've never seen another brand vary that much. Most are within 1 % or so.
Creitz Automotive here in Tulsa clean and flow mine each winter. Bosch are usually closer than others. Ford has changed to Bosch IIs, they look like LS1 injectors now. Accel injectors are the Ford Racing-style now. Just don't have the different color tops to tell the flow rate. Red top Fords were 30 lbs. light blue=24 lbs, etc. I'm using FAST injectors (Bosch) now.
I was not aware you had Venoms in your car.

mopar jeff · 03-09-2013, 02:23 PM

We all know Kyle has a fast car, so they can't be too bad.

03-07-2013, 10:35 PM	#1
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Injector question [QUOTE=KRatcliff;372313]The Venom 30lb injectors that you can get new off Ebay are $299.99 and would be darn close to the Ford Racing injectors as far as your needs. I think they flow slightly more than the Ford's according to Jeff Warren, but it wouldn't cause you any problems.[/] I would avoid those. Very high failure rates, and too often don't flow as rated. I have seen so many problems with those I now refuse to tune a car with them. Stick with Bosch or Lucus if your not going to use the originals. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

03-08-2013, 01:00 PM	#2
mopar jeff Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 219 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Injector question That is about 1/2 price Kyle, but maybe I should take my chance on a used set of Bosch, which will even be half of the Venoms. __________________ Jeff Interlicchia 7077 D/SA 1998 Pontiac Firebird LT1 J707 E/T 1966 Dodge Coronet 500

03-08-2013, 06:21 PM	#3
KRatcliff Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 769 Likes: 75 Liked 534 Times in 143 Posts	Re: Injector question I prefer the Ford Racing/Bosch if you can find them, but that is the problem. We haven't had any problems with the Venoms, but YMMV.

03-08-2013, 06:35 PM	#4
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Injector question I have customers (shops) with the bench top injector cleaners/flow testers that have found over 5% variation in sets of those, and a lot of failures. Some just quit working and sticking open. Accel used to have the same issues with their solid yellow injectors before changing to Bosch a few years ago. Their Bosch injectors have yellow tops, and bare steel bottoms. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

03-08-2013, 06:58 PM	#5
KRatcliff Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 769 Likes: 75 Liked 534 Times in 143 Posts	Re: Injector question I have had that much variation in the Ford Racing injectors. That is why I have flowed mine and put together matched sets.

03-08-2013, 08:10 PM	#6
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Injector question I've never seen another brand vary that much. Most are within 1 % or so. Creitz Automotive here in Tulsa clean and flow mine each winter. Bosch are usually closer than others. Ford has changed to Bosch IIs, they look like LS1 injectors now. Accel injectors are the Ford Racing-style now. Just don't have the different color tops to tell the flow rate. Red top Fords were 30 lbs. light blue=24 lbs, etc. I'm using FAST injectors (Bosch) now. I was not aware you had Venoms in your car. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

03-09-2013, 02:23 PM	#7
mopar jeff Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 219 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Injector question We all know Kyle has a fast car, so they can't be too bad. __________________ Jeff Interlicchia 7077 D/SA 1998 Pontiac Firebird LT1 J707 E/T 1966 Dodge Coronet 500

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