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Old 06-09-2013, 09:15 AM   #1
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Dan, i think you are missing the point. NHRA continues to treat sportsman racers like cattle, and does not value our input on anything. Oh, they pay fine lip service at times, but they really coul care less. That was evident by the starters response to David.

None of us know exactly what transpired when David got out of his car. But NHRA heard him loud and clear. He stopped their show, and expressed his opinion. if the suits in Glendora aren't in a coma, they know that 99% of the racers stand behind David Barton. There is a time for civility, and it's been tried for years. Sometimes you have to lose it for people to understand that you're serious. It's like dealing with a bully, you have to stand up and defend yourself. It's very easy to trash can an email or letter. It's impossible to ignore a man standing in front of you expressing his opinion.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:24 AM   #2
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Dan,
Were you racing at E town? We were so busy that I never got a chance to study the sheets. You have a lot of advice to offer about soccer but I don'think I've every met you at a Divisional or National race. Please come by for a visit when you do.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:35 AM   #3
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Well said chad.
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Old 06-09-2013, 10:02 AM   #4
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Dan, i think you are missing the point. NHRA continues to treat sportsman racers like cattle, and does not value our input on anything. Oh, they pay fine lip service at times, but they really coul care less. That was evident by the starters response to David.

None of us know exactly what transpired when David got out of his car. But NHRA heard him loud and clear. He stopped their show, and expressed his opinion. if the suits in Glendora aren't in a coma, they know that 99% of the racers stand behind David Barton. There is a time for civility, and it's been tried for years. Sometimes you have to lose it for people to understand that you're serious. It's like dealing with a bully, you have to stand up and defend yourself. It's very easy to trash can an email or letter. It's impossible to ignore a man standing in front of you expressing his opinion.
Dan, I've been sitting here trying to figure out how to respond to your post. Chad has said it as good as I can figure. If the NHRA is behaving like parents then they're very neglectful parents!
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Old 06-09-2013, 10:20 AM   #5
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I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore..........
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Old 06-09-2013, 04:23 PM   #6
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Dan, I've been sitting here trying to figure out how to respond to your post. Chad has said it as good as I can figure. If the NHRA is behaving like parents then they're very neglectful parents!
You are correct... !!!

However, I am not going to condone Mr. Barton's behavior.



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Old 06-09-2013, 10:33 AM   #7
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99% of the racers stand behind David Barton
IMHO - that number is incorrect

This forum is not even close to a representative sample of racers

We are not children and should expect better from ourselves than throwing a public temper tantrum and angry outburst

That would not work in my house or on our team

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Old 06-09-2013, 11:00 AM   #8
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Im sure the majority of the racers on this forum are on his side. There is nothing wrong with speaking up once in a while. Unlike many, David works on every area of his car. Engine assembly, car assembly, tuneup, and ect! He spends countless hrs on his program. He has one of the fastest drag pack cars in the country, because of his hard work.
When somebody spends all that time and effort, and the results are out of his hands because of an organizations lack of effort at track prep, it can frustrating. He had enough and told them about it. He lost in the shootout because of wheel spin, and didnt have a chance to compete in a heads up in the eleminator for the same reason.
He felt the way to handle it was take his case to the higher authorities, maybe someone will listen. I support his position, and stand with him and the other racers that wanted to be treated fairly when we pay our entry fee.
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IMHO - that number is incorrect

This forum is not even close to a representative sample of racers

We are not children and should expect better from ourselves than throwing a public temper tantrum and angry outburst

That would not work in my house or on our team

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This forum has nearly 12,000 members with many thousands of visitors each day. You can bet your bottom dollar that this forum represents the opinions of real racers!!! There are some who come here with these crazy notions of connecting soccer and other sports stories to drag racing. Simply, apples to oranges. Ever see a professional ball player argue a bad call with an official in baseball, football, tennis or soccer? Sure you have! None of us are choir boys or girls, we have our emotions to deal with, and any one of us can push back against an unfair situation.

I'll bet David has the support of the overwhelming majorityof REAL racers. The arm chair guys can chime in all they want but they weren't sweating their asses off trying to get 5 different cars to launch off a poorly prepared starting line. And with very little help from the starting line crew! I saw it all go down and totally understand why David had had enough.

For me this story is more about the poor race that nhra produced than it is about one man becoming frustrated. nhra sent us an apology for their lame effort, but they arrogantly fined and demanded an apology from David. Typical real world disconnect for nhra. They should have sucked it up and let it go.
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Old 06-09-2013, 11:28 AM   #10
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We l saidBruce..Dan lives in fantasy land..
Like I have said more non racers than racers..
Enough of Pure Stock......They are like the Harley classes....bogus
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