End of Stock and SuperStock Racing??

[Jim Wahl]

Originally Posted by Conway Witten

Of course you could keep you thermo-bog, either solid fuel or mixer! But if a simpleton like me wanted to run a Holley we could?

Yes sir, of course you could!!! Jim


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[Frito]

"What were the time of day that the Stock and Super Stock were run back then? Were they run before most people were out of bed or could be at the track"?

Last year at Indy, while helping a friend in Stock, some of his friends from his home town came to watch stock and super stock eliminator. They called and said they were at the gate and could not get in untill 9AM. The problem was it was 8AM and the stockers had already started running. When I ask the NHRA people at the gate about it they said the racers gate was open but spectators had to wait until 9. So much for filling the grandstands.

[will prater]

I had a similar experince at Topeka several years ago. My son and I went up into the stands by the starting line on the pit side to watch Stock and Super Stock qualifying on Thursday am. We were run out of the stands because I was told they were for reserved seating. Cost $10 dollars to get in on Thursday, only tickets being sold. Good thing there was only about 10 people in the stands. Didn't take too long to get us out.

[Bobby Fazio]

On Thursday?! What a joke... They need to get rid of the reserved seating that's pointless with the lack of fanbase these days.

[partsbob67]

another problem is the bracket racing format. all the editorials I read anymore do nothing but bash bracket races. people want to see heads-up racing. look at how popular pinks was. stockers and super stockers have the coolest looking cars on the property but we need a format like comp runs or something like that. just my opinion.

[Ed Carpenter]

Originally Posted by partsbob67

another problem is the bracket racing format. all the editorials I read anymore do nothing but bash bracket races. people want to see heads-up racing. look at how popular pinks was. stockers and super stockers have the coolest looking cars on the property but we need a format like comp runs or something like that. just my opinion.

It would be better but the high dollar guys would rule and can you imagine NHRA having to keep up with every class every round with the CIC. No way.

[JOE ZOOM]

Originally Posted by partsbob67

another problem is the bracket racing format. all the editorials I read anymore do nothing but bash bracket races. people want to see heads-up racing. look at how popular pinks was. stockers and super stockers have the coolest looking cars on the property but we need a format like comp runs or something like that. just my opinion.

That's just what we need to do.Let's all run heads up so the guys with the most money are the most competitive.If a bracket racing format had never been implemented we would be like NASCAR,50 individuals who can afford to compete.

Joe Mocci

[James Hill]

Originally Posted by partsbob67

another problem is the bracket racing format. all the editorials I read anymore do nothing but bash bracket races. people want to see heads-up racing. look at how popular pinks was. stockers and super stockers have the coolest looking cars on the property but we need a format like comp runs or something like that. just my opinion.

I don't think that would help by the 4th or 5th race all that would be showing up are the cj, dp, copo's and obscure combos like trucks, turbos and caddys. I do however believe there needs to be more consolidation of classes which would promote more heads up runs. You wouldn't necessarily have to have a comp like budget driving people out, but it would at least make you be some what competitive in your class.

[Mike Taylor 3601]

I think there are alot of things that effect stk,ss, things are alot different now,as example,kids play sports now almost year round,and travel alot,people have have alot more options for entertainment,one thing that comes to in the 70's you went to movie theater,had 1-2 movies that may show for 2-3 weeks or longer,at that time you drag raced you ran stk,ss,mod,alky classes? pro stock,funny car,top fuel or et bracket that was all run and did'nt pay much.,we had 4 tv channels here,abc,cbs.nbc and pbs.
We did'nt have big discount superstores,we had main streets filled with locally owned businesses.
Then there are'nt mechanically inclined people like there used to be,the majority of people could do basic stuff on their cars.

I don't know how to fix class racing,just some of my observations,also I know bracket racers that have raced 20 years and don't even know class racing exist or what it is.

I also remember you could win alot of money in the 80's compared to what it cost to race,and now it seems like win about the same amount,but alot more to race.
Mike Taylor 3601