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Old 08-24-2013, 10:06 AM   #1
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Ah, I see. So while you have to use a dial in that that is.1 faster than your fastest TT and it stays the same throughout eliminations, if you run .001 faster than that dial it is indeed a breakout, just like normal right??

Yes, regarding how they are ex NHRA folks that have a modern and sportsman oriented mindset, when the lady told me I can just show up at the track, join, certify, and they would give me all the car number stickers etc, and then just race, I commented back, 'wow how nice, much easier and less painful than NHRA"...

her exact reply was "That is precisely what we are doing, and its why we will win ".
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Old 08-24-2013, 12:38 PM   #2
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I looked at the NMCA website today, and couldn't believe how closely some of the classes compare to stock and super stock....only better (no breakout, not cost prohibitive, etc).

A stocker could easily fit into Mean Street, but have more flexibility to go fast. You'd need a different engine, but the rules are very stock(ish), and the cost wouldn't (necessarily) break the bank.

The Comp N/A class is a great choice for super stockers, though the price tag would be higher than converting a stocker to mean street. Nevertheless, it looks like a whole lotta fun, and at the end of the day, not a whole lot more money than building a competitive super stocker (if at all).

The structuring of the classes is excellent, too: One class, heads-up, pro tree, many choices/combinations to choose from, affordable (even to the younger generation), room to grow, exciting. Wow! What an amazing concept....

Now, if they could only sway class racers to make the switch and put together more regional events.....

Steve

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Old 08-24-2013, 01:04 PM   #3
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I looked at the NMRA website today, and couldn't believe how closely some of the classes compare to stock and super stock....only better (no breakout, not cost prohibitive, etc).

A stocker could easily fit into Mean Street, but have more flexibility to go fast. You'd need a different engine, but the rules are very stock(ish), and the cost wouldn't (necessarily) break the bank.

The Comp N/A class is a great choice for super stockers, though the price tag would be higher than converting a stocker to mean street. Nevertheless, it looks like a whole lotta fun, and at the end of the day, not a whole lot more money than building a competitive super stocker (if at all).

The structuring of the classes is excellent, too: One class, heads-up, pro tree, many choices/combinations to choose from, affordable (even to the younger generation), room to grow, exciting. Wow! What an amazing concept....

Now, if they could only sway class racers to make the switch and put together more regional events.....

Steve
Mean Street is a tough class. We tried it a couple years ago. I'd be willing to bet if we had the backing and time to do some testing different clmbos, we could be competive.
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Mean Street is a tough class. We tried it a couple years ago. I'd be willing to bet if we had the backing and time to do some testing different clmbos, we could be competive.
I'm building a K/SA car with my son, and I keep on saying to myself: I can't believe that I'm spending this much money to go this slow......

I'm also putting my super stocker back to work, and spent a bunch of money for a new engine that is down on power. Chevrolets dominate in my class (SS/BS) because (in part) there is so much R&D from Comp that filters over into it. Hell, you could buy a used 320 inch 15 degree comp motor that makes 800-plus horsepower for half of what I just paid for my engine.

The NMCA deal is a real eye-opener (for me, at least). It just seems so much better than what the NHRA is offering. They have made a real effort to bring parity to the racing, too. And, I simply don't see the cost being that much greater than what you would spend on a competitive class car, regardless of manufacturer.

The problem for me is that there are not a lot of events nearby (none really). But, it's something to think about, even if I have to travel a good distance to race.

Thanks, Kevin, for bringing up the topic.

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I'm building a K/SA car with my son, and I keep on saying to myself: I can't believe that I'm spending this much money to go this slow......

I'm also putting my super stocker back to work, and spent a bunch of money for a new engine that is down on power. Chevrolets dominate in my class (SS/BS) because (in part) there is so much R&D from Comp that filters over into it. Hell, you could buy a used 320 inch 15 degree comp motor that makes 800-plus horsepower for half of what I just paid for my engine.

The NMCA deal is a real eye-opener (for me, at least). It just seems so much better than what the NHRA is offering. They have made a real effort to bring parity to the racing, too. And, I simply don't see the cost being that much greater than what you would spend on a competitive class car, regardless of manufacturer.

The problem for me is that there are not a lot of events nearby (none really). But, it's something to think about, even if I have to travel a good distance to race.

Thanks, Kevin, for bringing up the topic.

I agree with what you are saying. My current engine combo was a stupid cheap budget build that can run 2-3 under index and that's it. If I have a heads up run, I'm done easy as that. But the chances of having one are slim to none. To go fast you're going to spend a ton in either type of racing
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Ah, I see. So while you have to use a dial in that that is.1 faster than your fastest TT and it stays the same throughout eliminations, if you run .001 faster than that dial it is indeed a breakout, just like normal right??

Yes, regarding how they are ex NHRA folks that have a modern and sportsman oriented mindset, when the lady told me I can just show up at the track, join, certify, and they would give me all the car number stickers etc, and then just race, I commented back, 'wow how nice, much easier and less painful than NHRA"...

her exact reply was "That is precisely what we are doing, and its why we will win ".
I have ran the NMCA Bowling Green , KY race for the last 2 years with my Stocker.
Last year I ran the EFI Rumble class which is a "pick a posted index" style format.
It was fun but my biggest complaint was why it is the only index class with a .500 Pro tree start. The NMC and NSS classes are a .500 Sportsman tree starts.

This year I just entered 2 different bracket classes.

I just recieved a thank you letter in the mail from the NMCA 2 days ago for participating at their event. That was nice of them.


Now.....if only the NMCA would allow and create a "combo" Stock/Super Stock race to showcase our cars to their fans at their events......
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:22 PM   #7
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Now.....if only the NMCA would allow and create a "combo" Stock/Super Stock race to showcase our cars to their fans at their events......
About 5 yrs. ago some of their races did have a Stock/Superstock program. I had raced at 2 of them. I think Nitro Joe may of have helped put them together.
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:29 PM   #8
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we use to run them in the old NSCA days, now doing it for Buckeye Stock /SS association series. I think Charlie Harmon runs that series still.
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Steve Wolcott runs the organization, Rollie Miller is the event director and Dad - Lynwood - is the competition director. The have some great folks the race with them regularly including Don Bowles and Jack Roush's daughter.
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:34 PM   #10
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Even though my goal is to eventually compete in NHRA stock/super stock, I raced with them for the first time last weekend at Norwalk. I had a blast. They are great people and run a very organized event. I will be going to more of their events.
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