You got to be kidding?

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

$100,000 stockers, $150,000 super stockers, motorhomes,. toterhomes, stacker trailers and golf carts fill the grounds of every divisional and national event to race for peanuts and you're crying about a new safety rule and spending $200.

Too funny!

Ed, there are a few things you are not considering and it is have nothing to do that NHRA is the regulator. It has to do with the premise in which this rule was implemented.

First, I believe there is not a solid case for the requirement to have a tether for the collectors.

If NHRA were to do a Weibull analysis, taking into consideration the number of events in which a collector came off from the header assembly and compared to the number of cars in competition and the number of runs, the low percentage of events would not justify or validate such requirement or rule change.

Second, I priced the cost of the parts offered and the labor required. Even when you buy the best parts in bulk, they are still making a considerable profit.

You may bring up the testing and approval of the parts; well, where are the test and acceptance criteria or specifications?

SFI does not have any specifications and NHRA has not published any criteria either. Therefore, it appears the approval is subjective.

[1320racer]

your opinion and speculation, none of which matter.

Bottomline is collector tethers are required as of 2014 and until someone else comes up with an NHRA accepted solution as well cheaper solution, you will be buying these tethers or welding your collectors.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

your opinion and speculation, none of which matter.

Bottomline is collector tethers are required as of 2014 and until someone else comes up with an NHRA accepted solution as well cheaper solution, you will be buying these tethers or welding your collectors.

Yes, might be my opinion, but speculation?

Please Mr. Ed...if you are so smart as you claim, please school me on the speculation part.
As I understand the definition of speculation is the forming of a theory or conjecture without sufficient evidence or basis. Other than what stated, anything else is considered a "knee jerk" reaction.
In my profession, I base my decisions on objective evidence, not speculation.

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

your opinion and speculation, none of which matter.

Bottomline is collector tethers are required as of 2014 and until someone else comes up with an NHRA accepted solution as well cheaper solution, you will be buying these tethers or welding your collectors.

Does this ruling not apply across the board; to all levels of NHRA competition? If so, looks like Ed has to spend a few more of his winnings on safety equipment.

[Jeff Lee]

The constant rubbing of our noses by 1320racer in a pile he see's as Doggy doo; aka "Class Racing" to 1320racer, is an obvious attempt by him to somehow prove he is better than any Class Racer. Yet in trying to display his level of competence, he constantly brings to light his incompetence. He constantly seeks either our approval, yet relishes when he gets somebody on our side to buy into his "your just glorified bracket racers". The old adage, "misery loves company", certainly applies to 1320racer.
Whether capable or not capable of making the commitment in building and competing with a class race car, the bottom line is 1320racer is not a Class Racer. In his world, he see's himself as King. In my world, he's nothing.
Therefore I just wasted a minute of my life...

[tommy d]

So "cousin Eddie" er......1320 says "Hey, Clark, the ****ters full"

[purestock]

The design is nice, the price is not. I did not know there was such an immediate need for a solution to this "problem"? I can think of a few other "problem" areas NHRA should be focusing on rather than a rogue collector every 100,000 passes.

Originally Posted by 1320racer

$100,000 stockers, $150,000 super stockers, motorhomes,. toterhomes, stacker trailers and golf carts fill the grounds of every divisional and national event to race for peanuts and you're crying about a new safety rule and spending $200.

Too funny!

Can someone please remind me why he ^ is allowed here?
Really, I need to know why.
Or, I won't be able to sleep at night.

[Mickey Whaley]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

your opinion and speculation, none of which matter.

Bottomline is collector tethers are required as of 2014 and until someone else comes up with an NHRA accepted solution as well cheaper solution, you will be buying these tethers or welding your collectors.

1320 they missed you sunday, and they ask about you at the scales.

[James Perrone]

Ed cant you see we are all getting F.;[..ck..Money isn't the problem . a monkey can make the same product NHRA are forcing down our throat.By the way its about$ 300 plus for my slow azz stocker.. Ed whats the report on Numedia track owner sucker punching the starter..
Being you no it all..Give us the real gossip..

[buzzinhalfdozen]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

$100,000 stockers, $150,000 super stockers, motorhomes,. toterhomes, stacker trailers and golf carts fill the grounds of every divisional and national event to race for peanuts and you're crying about a new safety rule and spending $200.

Too funny!

Ed, 2 questions first you stated "that now there is a need" now this statement , exactly where do you come up with any real evidence this is true? Yes there are some high end operations out there...but for every one of them there's 50 that get by with the minimum just so they can field a car. I realize for a man of your financial status $200 is chump change you prolly tip the guy at taco bell that much. Many of the racers you're accusing of "crying" have personally built their own stuff, cars, engines, ect. some to save some money some merely for the feeling of accomplishment of doing it themselves. I believe you used the same "argument" when a year ago I was stating my distain about buying a new window net every two years. REALLY it's not all about the money it's about the reasoning behind the rules, that's the issue here. If I felt like this were an actual problem that needed addressed I'd be all in, what the heck my collectors cost around $800 so why would I chance running over them? Apparently people capable of building competitive race cars aren't capable of properly fastening the components? Yes I realise it's a rule...however is it a good rule implimented for valid reasons ? Please feel free to inform us of all the times you've personally saw a collector get shot off a car, I can tell you how many times I saw it since 1982....once. Oh and BTW I don't have $100,000 in all my stuff...car, truck,trailer, and golf cart.