Heard in the Stands at the Indy

[boster]

Carey , welcome to Indy. Your not the first and won't be the last

[Chad Rhodes]

Carey, what exactly is the rule that they say your are not in compliance with?

[boostedf22c]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

Carey, what exactly is the rule that they say your are not in compliance with?

It's the hole diameter in my adapter/mid plate. Their rules state that this hole can only be 1 inch in diameter bigger than the crank flange diameter where the flywheel bolts too.

That is super easy to do with your domestic V8 car as that flange sticks through the adapter plate and mounting flange of the block. Mine is recessed inside of the mounting flange of the block and inside of the adapter plate. So that hole HAS to be bigger to accommodate the radius on the back of the flywheel so we can safely bolt our flywheel to the engine. Their solution is to run a hub adapter or some weird sort of spacer to get the crank mounting flange past the adapter plate to where we can bolt the flywheel to. Anyone with any experience with a buzzy inline 4 cylinder car knows that it's hard keeping any bolt in that engine, let alone a flywheel bolt. So in their "fix" I would have to run really long flywheel bolts and some sort of spacer. That too me seems way more dangerous than a larger hole in the adapter plate that goes no where except into the back of the block. And honestly it's extremely close to the radius of the flywheel so in the end the hole in the adapter plate, once the flywheel is bolted up is actually non existent.

[Chad Rhodes]

Originally Posted by boostedf22c

It's the hole diameter in my adapter/mid plate. Their rules state that this hole can only be 1 inch in diameter bigger than the crank flange diameter where the flywheel bolts too.

That is super easy to do with your domestic V8 car as that flange sticks through the adapter plate and mounting flange of the block. Mine is recessed inside of the mounting flange of the block and inside of the adapter plate. So that hole HAS to be bigger to accommodate the radius on the back of the flywheel so we can safely bolt our flywheel to the engine. Their solution is to run a hub adapter or some weird sort of spacer to get the crank mounting flange past the adapter plate to where we can bolt the flywheel to. Anyone with any experience with a buzzy inline 4 cylinder car knows that it's hard keeping any bolt in that engine, let alone a flywheel bolt. So in their "fix" I would have to run really long flywheel bolts and some sort of spacer. That too me seems way more dangerous than a larger hole in the adapter plate that goes no where except into the back of the block. And honestly it's extremely close to the radius of the flywheel so in the end the hole in the adapter plate, once the flywheel is bolted up is actually non existent.

Wow. I understand the rule as written, and you're right. It was never written with modern import engines in mind, and is probably decades old. I think a few calls to Glendora, and talking to Pat or some of the others might make you some headway. I think a better solution than a spacer would be to have the crank made a little longer to move it back, if NHRA won't bend on the rule. I hate you had that happen, your car is really cool.

[Dick Butler]

Guys got to realize that keeping the tech men up on 1million combinations in Stk and SS cannot be done and should not be expected. Keeping the combinations "simple and limited " can be an answer but no one will listen to that one. Everyone fears lack of innovation, lack of their own car, lack of their own brand.........lack of racing the combo they currently own..and understand.
Everyone rather sacrifice the whole sport while continuing to play the same games year after year. Run what they allow today and "Bi####" about cost, tech, rules etc. Complain about no sponsors, no crowd, no heads up racing....
A clean start class with spec , sealed motors could recover the crowd, cut the cost, increase the interest of sponsors and NHRA but I doubt support could be found anywhere
It cannot be done by one man, one group or brand. (MOPAR shoot out is the exception or example of supporting a concept. Not everyone can afford a 200,000 program.
Allow any body you have at a fixed wt and cubic inchs spec or sealed motor and at least
people could test the water with their current car and a cheaper motor combo to see if it works.

[aspen7709]

Hey Carey, Why not stud the crank hub? Use long studs, slide the spacer then the wheel on. Im sure ARP would make them to any spec you need. It would be just like the clutch set up in top fuel cars then....Studs give more clamping force and are "safer" right and you spend more money right? Good luck in your fight!

Kenny Newsome 7709 ?/SA

[Bryan Worner]

You guys think it's bad when you hear this stuff in the stands? How about when it comes out of the track announcer's mouth across the loud speakers? I heard, during a couple of heads up runs at Atco, a double breakout!

But the best had to be hearing over and over that ONLY round winners return to the lanes!

[tommy d]

Originally Posted by aspen7709

Hey Carey, Why not stud the crank hub? Use long studs, slide the spacer then the wheel on. Im sure ARP would make them to any spec you need. It would be just like the clutch set up in top fuel cars then....Studs give more clamping force and are "safer" right and you spend more money right? Good luck in your fight!

Kenny Newsome 7709 ?/SA

If he starts moving the flywheel around then he has to move the starter with it. And everything effects the next thing. Fun!

[Jeff Lee]

I'm trying to figure out how or what made them notice this. Something caught their eye or somebody told them what to look at because I can't imagine this was visible under the hood. If you'd like, PM me a picture or post it.
Sorry to hear about this. I personally think you have a bad a** car and I admire you for coming forward with it to NHRA class racing. Before you, it was Mazda rotaries.

[Notch1320]

Carey, just run Outlaw 8.5 and keep smiling! Your car is one bad dude!!!