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Old 09-04-2013, 04:21 PM   #1
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You guys are all wet about this deal and have your shorts in a bunch over nothing --- who in their right mind would be light in a heads-up final round in the biggest race of their life ? ? ? All this after being weighed a zillion times all week ......not a chance ! ! !
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:29 PM   #2
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You guys are all wet about this deal and have your shorts in a bunch over nothing --- who in their right mind would be light in a heads-up final round in the biggest race of their life ? ? ? All this after being weighed a zillion times all week ......not a chance ! ! !
Exactly. No chance either was light. However, NHRA, in the spirit of fairness and finishing the race the right way, should have weighed both cars.
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Old 09-04-2013, 04:51 PM   #3
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You never know. Sometimes there isn't time to go to the scales and check your weight. Why have scales if you're not going to use them for a heads-up race???

I won a heads-up race in Chicago one time and I knew I was going to be close on weight, so I pushed the car to the scales after coasting as far as I could. My weight was right on the minimum.
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:09 PM   #4
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You guys are all wet about this deal and have your shorts in a bunch over nothing --- who in their right mind would be light in a heads-up final round in the biggest race of their life ? ? ? All this after being weighed a zillion times all week ......not a chance ! ! !
Jack... I respectfully disagree.
Just ask Bryan Worner and Herbie Null. (At the Atco points meet a few weeks ago, These two had a GT/EA headsup run in the third round. As I was told, Herbie pulled out 40 lbs to get to the minumum for the run. He was scaled after beating Bryan and the car was actually 50 lbs lighter - meaning 10lbs light fo rthe run). Bryan was reinstated.

I say ALL headsups should be weighed 100% of the time... and ps.... (It wouldn't hurt for a quick underhood inspection too to see if the correct carb is on the car!!!... don't think that hasn't ever happened).


PS>>>> I also believe Brad was 100% legal on weight
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Old 09-04-2013, 05:53 PM   #5
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I say ALL headsups should be weighed 100% of the time... and ps.... (It wouldn't hurt for a quick underhood inspection too to see if the correct carb is on the car!!!... don't think that hasn't ever happened).
Or a nitrous bottle.lol
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I had a scare in Round 2 of Joliet this year.Won the round,went to the scales,they said I was 5 pounds light.This was one of the first times that I ran at a minimum weight of 4075.

I pulled off of the scales and then pulled on again and was right on.

I didn't mean to be that close,but when you are pitted almost 2 miles away,it was easy to underestimate how much gas I used up on the last pass.

This was Not a heads up.

Why on earth the cars were not weighed in the final at Indy is beyond me.

In fact,I was reluctant to even respond to the issue.Did this REALLY happen,or just a story that is on the internet?

Because,as we all know,if it is on the internet,it has to be true.
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PS>>>> I also believe Brad was 100% legal on weight

I'm curious. Would you have said the same thing about Herbie had they not weighed him after his run against Bryan?
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I understand time can be an issue at some of the big races but at least weigh and check fuel for the guys who had a heads up, we are not talking about a lot of cars. Most of us assume we are going to be checked but that's not the point.

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I'm curious. Would you have said the same thing about Herbie had they not weighed him after his run against Bryan?
Yes Toby.... I would have said the same for Herbie.... (I'm betting it was a complete accident that he came up light).... he knew he was getting scaled after that round (most likely
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Old 09-05-2013, 10:43 AM   #10
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I will tell you how it actually happened...we beat Downing at 4 cars and immediately went to my trailer to pull some weight and literally 10 minutes after I ran I was back on the scales and was 10 over. I even joked with the scale guy if I should pull 5 more...he said, "I am not giving you advice on that" and we laughed. I contemplated back at the pits pulling 2.5-5 lbs but knew it wouldn't make a diff and elected not to. We did pull 1/2 qt of oil and 1/2 qt of gear oil and if that adds up to 10+ lbs my math skills are awful! We knew our opponent should outrun us and were just hoping for a miracle (holeshot, spin or breakage) I still don't know what happened to Mr. McGinley's car but it did not make a run that anyone expected and that was lucky on our part. I know I was legal and I don't care if anyone believes me because that is irrelevant . NHRA told me to go ahead for the parade and I followed what they told me after I asked 3 or 4 times....are you sure???? Yes I wished we would have weighed and fuel checked just to ease everyone's minds and I hope in the future when we have a Headsup race that they weigh and fuel check EVERYONE....EVERYTIME.

I had a blast at Indy as always and want to thank DJ Pires and family for the slick 72 Nova, Chick Ross and family for carrying the car, My wife Katie, Ryan Mangus, Steve Glenn, Francis Ross, my family for their support and all the calls, texts and emails meant alot! And anyone else that helped push the car from our pits to the burnout box!

Thank you also to our great supporters: Lucas Oil, Hoosier tire, Jegs, K&N, Huntsville Engine and Plourd Racing Products.

Seeya in Charlotte!

PS- I was weighed in Class E1 when I finally got in the show and was legal...and oh ya...ran .07 better than the finals....
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