Crank Trigger

[Pedigo Perf]

Originally Posted by buzzinhalfdozen

To js72mav, I whole heartedly apologise to you for any posts I've made that took away from answering you questions. I hope you can read the replies that pertain to your query and make a sound judgement as to the merits of each of the triggering methods you've described. Again my apologies. Joe

Joe, you have compelled me to contribute something "on topic" for js72mav to consider while making his ignition choices.

I can easily come up with a dozen solid reasons to pick the crank trigger over a distributer ignition but consistency is one that applies to all racing types. The timing is constantly changing with a distributer type as already noted but even more than you might expect as oil viscosity or engine oil temp changes. Additionally, distributer drive component wear necessitates constant monitoring of timing throughout the season not to mention that slippery chrome clamp (never use one) letting things adjust themselves at the most inopportune times.

But I suppose if you're the kind of racer that's always holding a tenth, I guess consitency is overrated.

TP

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by Pedigo Perf

I can easily come up with a dozen solid reasons to pick the crank trigger over a distributer ignition but consistency is one that applies to all racing types. The timing is constantly changing with a distributer type as already noted but even more than you might expect as oil viscosity or engine oil temp changes. Additionally, distributer drive component wear necessitates constant monitoring of timing throughout the season not to mention that slippery chrome clamp (never use one) letting things adjust themselves at the most inopportune times.

well I and everyone of my closest racing friends, some of which are stock and super stock racers must be the luckiest MFers to ever drive a race car cause our bracket cars are DEADLY consistent, our timing doesn't change with oil viscosity and temp nor do our distributors require constant monitoring throughout the season for fear of component wear not to mention the distributor hold down clamp allows "things adjust themselves"

CLUELESS comments doesn't close to describing this level of nonsense!

[Ed Wright]

You have experience with two cars. Tracy builds race engines. Possibly he has seen things you have not?

I hope you never develop the rotator cuff problems I have, you would not be able to reach back there and pat yourself on the back the way you always do. Congrats!

[Pedigo Perf]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

You have experience with two cars. Tracy builds race engines. Possibly he has seen things you have not?

I hope you never develop the rotator cuff problems I have, you would not be able to reach back there and pat yourself on the back the way you always do. Congrats!

I think his hands spend a considerable amount of time in front stroking..... his keyboard

[Pedigo Perf]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

well I and everyone of my closest racing friends, some of which are stock and super stock racers must be the luckiest MFers to ever drive a race car cause our bracket cars are DEADLY consistent, our timing doesn't change with oil viscosity and temp nor do our distributors require constant monitoring throughout the season for fear of component wear not to mention the distributor hold down clamp allows "things adjust themselves"

CLUELESS comments doesn't close to describing this level of nonsense!

Of course I wasn't refering to your perfect *****. You got it goin on trophy boy.

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by 1320racer

well I and everyone of my closest racing friends, some of which are stock and super stock racers must be the luckiest MFers to ever drive a race car cause our bracket cars are DEADLY consistent, our timing doesn't change with oil viscosity and temp nor do our distributors require constant monitoring throughout the season for fear of component wear not to mention the distributor hold down clamp allows "things adjust themselves"

CLUELESS comments doesn't close to describing this level of nonsense!

I notice your Stock / Super Stock "friends" don't seem to get on here and back you. What's up with that?

[joespanova]

I use a crank trigger because it gives me a " warm fuzzy " feeling.
I do like its rock steady state though.

[js72mav]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I understand what you guys are saying and agree. I just wanted to make sure I was thinking right. Right now I just have a locked out billet dist. but I am going to put on the crank trigger. I was just curious about if there is any actual horsepower gain or just stability in the timing. Thanks again!!!!!!!

Jamie S.

[Alan Roehrich]

Originally Posted by js72mav

Thanks for the feedback guys. I understand what you guys are saying and agree. I just wanted to make sure I was thinking right. Right now I just have a locked out billet dist. but I am going to put on the crank trigger. I was just curious about if there is any actual horsepower gain or just stability in the timing. Thanks again!!!!!!!

Jamie S.

I put one on the SS 396, and saw a considerable improvement in timing stability and some small improvement in performance, and we already had the best state of the art distributor based system MSD has.

[1320racer]

Jamie, you made your decision about your car and your money, good for you. Me, I must be doing something wrong when a guy with a mid 11 second car is convinced based on the opinions he reads on an internet forum that the addition of a crank trigger will reward him with quicker and or faster MPH on the time slip due to "more stable, rocky steady" timing yet I've got about 4000 10 second time slips, 1000 9.0x time slips and numerous 8 second time slips from two BBC combos with billet distributors that every time I've set the timing it too is steady at RPM. Further, the clamp has never loosened, the timing has never changed due to oil viscosity and temp and never in over 2 decades have I had to constantly monitor a distributor for fear of component wear but wait, it gets more crazy...the MSD billet distributor in my 950HP BBC has ~ 18 degrees of mechanical advance in it. Yep, you read right, it is NOT locked out yet somehow, I'm able to make pass after pass after pass where my 60 foots and ETs typically vary thousanths(.00x) on any given day. Guess I'm just lucky or maybe all this talk about more stable timing means NOTHING on the time slip with engines like yours and mine.

Again, Jamie, your car, your money, your time, your decision.