Who Runs a Diaper? - Page 3

DIAPERMAN · 09-30-2013, 10:37 PM

We just sent 4 Hemi Diapers to Bartons We do these all the time call me if interested Tue Rob I have a pattern for the LT1 call me Tue

Tom Goldman · 09-30-2013, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SSDA Hemi

How about we change this thread to "Lets see some pics of belly pans or diapers on a Stock or SS car.

I wanted my car builder to fab up a belly pan last year. He was full of negatives on a Super Stock car... My headers touch the block amongst other issues, but I will voluntarily put something on over the winter.

A diaper (belly pan) is loaded with positives that I can see...

I'd hate to see anything happen to that car [or you] ! You should be able to make a pan work ,but I know from working on a friends SS/ DA Challenger ,there is very little chance of a workable diaper on your car.

Jeff Lee · 10-01-2013, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DIAPERMAN

We just sent 4 Hemi Diapers to Bartons We do these all the time call me if interested Tue Rob I have a pattern for the LT1 call me Tue

Why don't you take the time to explain the process assuming you don't have an engine / chassis pattern. My '70 AMX 390 4-speed comes to mind but the discussion should apply across the board. Please include pricing and lead times.

DIAPERMAN · 10-01-2013, 08:47 AM

Jeff we have patterns for AMX Fill out build sheet on my web site ,send pictures if you can of engine from underneath the car .Then I will call you about options I deal with every customer myself. Price starts at $ 169.00 and highest price for full custom is $ 550.00 We have most diapers in stock Custom lead time is about a week now but will get busy towards the first of the year Thanks feel free to call me with any questions.

Wade Mahaffey · 10-01-2013, 09:56 AM

What are some pros and cons of a diaper vs a pan? I like them both, but being a fabricator, I was leaning toward something really nice. My car is a 58 Corvette and the headers exit the engine bay over the frame rail, and behind the front tire. It is totally wide open around the engine, and the front suspension cross member is out in front of the engine. My situation is advantageous, and not typical of these S/S cars of today. I can fabricate a beautiful piece that would resemble a floor panel. I feel that I could provide attachment points on the frame that would facilitate quick and easy removal of the pan for any reason. The pan would have absorbing pads on the interior. The diapers that I have seen, seem to have straps and/or portions of the bag that bolt to various things on the engine and look to be somewhat aggravating to deal with. Don't get me wrong, I love the diaper for what it does and they are very well built. I just think that for the racer that says "forget it, I can't get one on my stuff" they may be a very good...(and maybe a better option) for them. Another thing I like about the pan deal is that there is more room around the engine for visual inspection. There are other advantages that I will keep to myself for now. Either way, a device/component is good and cheap insurance under that race motor. Think about it!

Wade Mahaffey

DIAPERMAN · 10-01-2013, 10:15 AM

Wade as you know the diaper comes up the side of the block just below the heads.So if the engine fails it will contain everything to get you stopped .The problem with pan ,it is only 2 to 3 inches tall so if the engine fails and blows oil or water out there is so much turbulance around engine the liquid will not make it all to the pan and stay in it.Our diapers only have 4 straps on them so we keep it easy on and off.Also just for the record I am not pushing Diaper rules , we build diapers for racers that want to protect their cars and drivers.We are sportsman racers also

Wade Mahaffey · 10-01-2013, 01:32 PM

just like everything else, custom made is the case for me. I don't know where the 3 inches deep comes from, must be a minimum spec. If the pan or diaper is not mandatory, you could make one that is 1 inch deep, and I would argue that it would be better than nothing. I would certainly be looking for every advantage for maximum coverage as I design and develop my pan system. I think these containment devices whether the diaper, pan, combination or any other device are the way to go. In extreme situations, a base fluid tight pan sufficient to hold the contents of the engine (water/oil) as minimum depth, could have additional splash curtains strategically placed to direct fluid into the pan even though they are not actually attached to the pan. These sheet metal curtains can attach to anything that will hold them in position. The bottom line is that if you want to overcome and obstacle, you can but it will take effort It should be a case by case issue just to find out which will perform best for your engine, components, and chassis circumstances.

Wade Mahaffey

DIAPERMAN · 10-01-2013, 01:56 PM

I agree I have seen your work you would do it the correct way.But I have seen some belly pans on cars with no splash panels and no obsorbant pads also.plus the steering on a lot of cars is the problem.Also your average racer could get a lot of money wrapped up in a custom pan.I hope racers just run whatever works the best for them but just run something

09-30-2013, 10:37 PM	#21
DIAPERMAN Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ILLINIOS Posts: 715 Likes: 2 Liked 21 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Who Runs a Diaper? We just sent 4 Hemi Diapers to Bartons We do these all the time call me if interested Tue Rob I have a pattern for the LT1 call me Tue

10-01-2013, 08:47 AM	#24
DIAPERMAN Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ILLINIOS Posts: 715 Likes: 2 Liked 21 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Who Runs a Diaper? Jeff we have patterns for AMX Fill out build sheet on my web site ,send pictures if you can of engine from underneath the car .Then I will call you about options I deal with every customer myself. Price starts at $ 169.00 and highest price for full custom is $ 550.00 We have most diapers in stock Custom lead time is about a week now but will get busy towards the first of the year Thanks feel free to call me with any questions.

10-01-2013, 09:56 AM	#25
Wade Mahaffey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 581 Likes: 0 Liked 18 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Who Runs a Diaper? What are some pros and cons of a diaper vs a pan? I like them both, but being a fabricator, I was leaning toward something really nice. My car is a 58 Corvette and the headers exit the engine bay over the frame rail, and behind the front tire. It is totally wide open around the engine, and the front suspension cross member is out in front of the engine. My situation is advantageous, and not typical of these S/S cars of today. I can fabricate a beautiful piece that would resemble a floor panel. I feel that I could provide attachment points on the frame that would facilitate quick and easy removal of the pan for any reason. The pan would have absorbing pads on the interior. The diapers that I have seen, seem to have straps and/or portions of the bag that bolt to various things on the engine and look to be somewhat aggravating to deal with. Don't get me wrong, I love the diaper for what it does and they are very well built. I just think that for the racer that says "forget it, I can't get one on my stuff" they may be a very good...(and maybe a better option) for them. Another thing I like about the pan deal is that there is more room around the engine for visual inspection. There are other advantages that I will keep to myself for now. Either way, a device/component is good and cheap insurance under that race motor. Think about it! Wade Mahaffey Last edited by Wade Mahaffey; 10-01-2013 at 10:08 AM.

10-01-2013, 10:15 AM	#26
DIAPERMAN Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ILLINIOS Posts: 715 Likes: 2 Liked 21 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Who Runs a Diaper? Wade as you know the diaper comes up the side of the block just below the heads.So if the engine fails it will contain everything to get you stopped .The problem with pan ,it is only 2 to 3 inches tall so if the engine fails and blows oil or water out there is so much turbulance around engine the liquid will not make it all to the pan and stay in it.Our diapers only have 4 straps on them so we keep it easy on and off.Also just for the record I am not pushing Diaper rules , we build diapers for racers that want to protect their cars and drivers.We are sportsman racers also

10-01-2013, 01:32 PM	#27
Wade Mahaffey Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 581 Likes: 0 Liked 18 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Who Runs a Diaper? just like everything else, custom made is the case for me. I don't know where the 3 inches deep comes from, must be a minimum spec. If the pan or diaper is not mandatory, you could make one that is 1 inch deep, and I would argue that it would be better than nothing. I would certainly be looking for every advantage for maximum coverage as I design and develop my pan system. I think these containment devices whether the diaper, pan, combination or any other device are the way to go. In extreme situations, a base fluid tight pan sufficient to hold the contents of the engine (water/oil) as minimum depth, could have additional splash curtains strategically placed to direct fluid into the pan even though they are not actually attached to the pan. These sheet metal curtains can attach to anything that will hold them in position. The bottom line is that if you want to overcome and obstacle, you can but it will take effort It should be a case by case issue just to find out which will perform best for your engine, components, and chassis circumstances. Wade Mahaffey

10-01-2013, 01:56 PM	#28
DIAPERMAN Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ILLINIOS Posts: 715 Likes: 2 Liked 21 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Who Runs a Diaper? I agree I have seen your work you would do it the correct way.But I have seen some belly pans on cars with no splash panels and no obsorbant pads also.plus the steering on a lot of cars is the problem.Also your average racer could get a lot of money wrapped up in a custom pan.I hope racers just run whatever works the best for them but just run something

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