Econo Modified

Dick Butler · 12-28-2013, 02:09 PM

Thanks for the new thread. We needed to accentuate Econo so more see the goal. First they need to give an index. Maybe see which current Mod SS class one would fit as a place to go if someone got involved.

randy wilson · 12-28-2013, 02:27 PM

I think I can help with an index from just shooting from the hip. I'd say at 9 lbs. per cube, you will see some 9.40's to 9.50's. So say, 10 flat. I may be wrong, but at 10.5 lbs. we went some 9.90's. But that was with a modern car, and a star vac pump.

Ed Wright · 12-28-2013, 03:48 PM

Automatic 11lb SS cars with all the restrictions go high nines. My wife could make a 9lb SM car go 10 flat. LOL

randy wilson · 12-28-2013, 06:34 PM

Ya but Ed, you may be smarter then I. I ran a 10.5 lb. spec car for 2 years, and went 6.29 in the 1\8th at 109.67. At 10 lbs. with a 291 iron head bowtie, that we ran in SS/CS at 10.5 lbs. we went 6.06 at 114.96 at the same track.That's all I have to go on. Most, not all, but most SS\BS cars run 9.0's, to 8.80's. I think the heads, with a 3,000 # min. at 9#, will be in the 9.40's to start. Just a guess. It ain't hard to reduce the index. It only takes an ink pen. Big difference berween a spec head, and a 15 degree chevy. Also, 10 flat is just the index. If they're like the other super stockers, and run 1.5 under, they'll be running 8.50's.

Nitro Joe Jackson · 12-30-2013, 12:29 PM

this has been tried so many times before and came up goose eggs, but have fun posting all winter as it will never happen, trust me.

randy wilson · 12-30-2013, 02:14 PM

Joe, you're right. It's been tried to death. But NEVER with a cylinder head totally equal for all manufactures. But, I agree they will never try it. It makes way too much sense. Who would even dare to think a racing organization would ever want to actually race? If we're lucky, the roundy- rounders will have to start dialing in their lap times to make it fair. Crowd should love it. But it's still fun to discuss. Either way, I'm either retired, or I''l have a nice street car if nothing comes of it.

Ed Wright · 12-30-2013, 02:57 PM

I'm with Joe, it ain't really gonna happen. Would be fun, but so would be taking a shower with Pam Anderson. LOL

12-28-2013, 02:09 PM	#1
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Econo Modified Thanks for the new thread. We needed to accentuate Econo so more see the goal. First they need to give an index. Maybe see which current Mod SS class one would fit as a place to go if someone got involved.

12-28-2013, 02:27 PM	#2
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Econo Modified I think I can help with an index from just shooting from the hip. I'd say at 9 lbs. per cube, you will see some 9.40's to 9.50's. So say, 10 flat. I may be wrong, but at 10.5 lbs. we went some 9.90's. But that was with a modern car, and a star vac pump. __________________ don,t have one

12-28-2013, 03:48 PM	#3
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Econo Modified Automatic 11lb SS cars with all the restrictions go high nines. My wife could make a 9lb SM car go 10 flat. LOL __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

12-28-2013, 06:34 PM	#4
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Econo Modified Ya but Ed, you may be smarter then I. I ran a 10.5 lb. spec car for 2 years, and went 6.29 in the 1\8th at 109.67. At 10 lbs. with a 291 iron head bowtie, that we ran in SS/CS at 10.5 lbs. we went 6.06 at 114.96 at the same track.That's all I have to go on. Most, not all, but most SS\BS cars run 9.0's, to 8.80's. I think the heads, with a 3,000 # min. at 9#, will be in the 9.40's to start. Just a guess. It ain't hard to reduce the index. It only takes an ink pen. Big difference berween a spec head, and a 15 degree chevy. Also, 10 flat is just the index. If they're like the other super stockers, and run 1.5 under, they'll be running 8.50's. __________________ don,t have one Last edited by randy wilson; 12-28-2013 at 06:39 PM.

12-30-2013, 12:29 PM	#5
Nitro Joe Jackson VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Loudonville, Ohio or where ever the Nitro Lounge is parked Posts: 2,293 Likes: 57 Liked 67 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Econo Modified this has been tried so many times before and came up goose eggs, but have fun posting all winter as it will never happen, trust me. __________________ Nitro Joe Jackson STK 3431 nitrojoe@neo.rr.com

12-30-2013, 02:14 PM	#6
randy wilson Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: N/A Posts: 882 Likes: 0 Liked 22 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Econo Modified Joe, you're right. It's been tried to death. But NEVER with a cylinder head totally equal for all manufactures. But, I agree they will never try it. It makes way too much sense. Who would even dare to think a racing organization would ever want to actually race? If we're lucky, the roundy- rounders will have to start dialing in their lap times to make it fair. Crowd should love it. But it's still fun to discuss. Either way, I'm either retired, or I''l have a nice street car if nothing comes of it. __________________ don,t have one

12-30-2013, 02:57 PM	#7
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Econo Modified I'm with Joe, it ain't really gonna happen. Would be fun, but so would be taking a shower with Pam Anderson. LOL __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

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