Econo Modified

[joespanova]

Randy , who is this "dusternash" raving about the 12,000 RPM Nova?

In a YouTube video a comment was made by this person:
dusternash

1 year ago

in reply to ted evans

"60 ft times low 1.20's. Car is 1/8 mile so this is a full pass 5.90 117 mph. Launch at 10,000 and shift 10,200. Car weighs 3150 so hp est between 7 and 800"

A 10.5LB car w a 289 w driver on board needs to weigh roughly 3030......however "duster nash " claims the cars weighs 3150......first of all , why carry the additional weight , if in fact he's even accurate........and secondly , its doubtful that little engine is making more than 675 , as opposed to the "between 7 and 8 hundred" he claims. Given he's probably using a shallow valve angle head 15/18deg because thats what it would take?

[randy wilson]

Ok Joe. It's a long story, but I'll do my best to explain. Dusternash is the mouth piece of the competition. He NEVER EVER ran against us. He ran the heads-up trophy class with an 8 second car. I ain't slamming his car, just his motives. They just told him what to post, and he posted it. At Bethany, with the runs he is talking about, the spec motor they ran, ran 6.44 best, at 104 mph. at 11.5 lbs. per cube. He carried a 150 lb. penalty for running a clutchless, and dry sump against our clutch assisted, and wet sump. I doubt the motor had 550 HP. We ran at 11 lbs. per cube, and ran 6.29 at 109.67 best, and we actually dynoed that engine, and had 592 HP. Go figure. Then some of my adversaries decided to talk Eddyville into running "Their" rules of any head, any trans, any oil system, with computers, and all the bells and whistles, and no wt breaks, and dared us to compete under "their" rules. We abliged, with a dart\buick, and proceeded to kick their butts again. The fastest I seen them go at Eddyville, was 6.09 at 109 at 10.5 lbs. per cube with a 15 degree. We went 5.85, 120 mph at 10.5 lbs. per cube. We never were beat by them and they ran the scales, and all legality's. And we only had a shade over 700 HP. If they ever ran a 5 I never seen it, and would doubt the car would weigh right, but who knows. And that, my friend, is the caliber of racers I had to deal with. Some were great, such as Rick Parrot, Steve Bridger, etc, but a few can ruin it for many. In fact after running a couple of times at Eddyville, Steve Thompson, our driver, posted on facebook, "Different track, different tech guys, different rules, Same damn results." Go figure.

[joespanova]

Originally Posted by randy wilson

Ok Joe. It's a long story, but I'll do my best to explain. Dusternash is the mouth piece of the competition. He NEVER EVER ran against us. He ran the heads-up trophy class with an 8 second car. I ain't slamming his car, just his motives. They just told him what to post, and he posted it. At Bethany, with the runs he is talking about, the spec motor they ran, ran 6.44 best, at 104 mph. at 11.5 lbs. per cube. He carried a 150 lb. penalty for running a clutchless, and dry sump against our clutch assisted, and wet sump. I doubt the motor had 550 HP. We ran at 11 lbs. per cube, and ran 6.29 at 109.67 best, and we actually dynoed that engine, and had 592 HP. Go figure. Then some of my adversaries decided to talk Eddyville into running "Their" rules of any head, any trans, any oil system, with computers, and all the bells and whistles, and no wt breaks, and dared us to compete under "their" rules. We abliged, with a dart\buick, and proceeded to kick their butts again. The fastest I seen them go at Eddyville, was 6.09 at 109 at 10.5 lbs. per cube with a 15 degree. We went 5.85, 120 mph at 10.5 lbs. per cube. We never were beat by them and they ran the scales, and all legality's. And we only had a shade over 700 HP. If they ever ran a 5 I never seen it, and would doubt the car would weigh right, but who knows. And that, my friend, is the caliber of racers I had to deal with. Some were great, such as Rick Parrot, Steve Bridger, etc, but a few can ruin it for many. In fact after running a couple of times at Eddyville, Steve Thompson, our driver, posted on facebook, "Different track, different tech guys, different rules, Same damn results." Go figure.

Comical......
and this same "dusternash" was quick to ask me about my cars weight as if to imply "there's no way I could run within a gnats lash of what THAT Nova ran unless I was a lightweight" I've got a handful of 6 oh / 9.50 timeslips too and "dusternash" if you're reading this ...I have no dry sump , no Liberty clutchless , 23 degree ( std ) heads and stud rockers

[randy wilson]

Joe, you're dealing with someone who wouldn't know a real race car if it ran over him. You've won more rounds in one night, then he has in his career, and I don't even know you. Don't let it bother you, I've dealt with him, aunt Edna, and the Brady sisters for years. You learn to just roll with the punches.

[joespanova]

Originally Posted by randy wilson

Joe, you're dealing with someone who wouldn't know a real race car if it ran over him. You've won more rounds in one night, then he has in his career, and I don't even know you. Don't let it bother you, I've dealt with him, aunt Edna, and the Brady sisters for years. You learn to just roll with the punches.

[SSDiv6]

I would love to see such class be developed; nevertheless, even if there if a spec cylinder head, I believe NHRA would not be interested monitoring them.

The reason I believe so, I have been told by a few people that NHRA is seriously considering allowing any cast iron cylinder head in SS/CS class.

If this rule change takes effect, Chevy products will rule the class with the current aftermarket cast iron offerings such as the RHS Pro Action 14 degree cylinder heads, offering small chambers, big valves and the capability of the intake ports being ported to 300cc's of volume.

The current utilized Ford N351 and Mopar W-2 heads cannot compete against the Chevy engine offerings and there are no equivalent aftermarket cast iron heads either for the Ford and Mopar applications.

[randy wilson]

I don't believe they will allow the RHS head in, but who knows. RHS quit making them anyway in cast iron. But that goes back to my point. Why spend $10,000 on an induction system, just to have it outdated at a whim. You're making my point for me. There's always a head from one manufacturer, going back and forth from manufacturers, that has an advantage. The Brodix head fixes that. Why is that so hard for them to understand? What's the valve angle on the Ford head, and W2?

[blkjack]

Originally Posted by ssdiv6

i would love to see such class be developed; nevertheless, even if there if a spec cylinder head, i believe nhra would not be interested monitoring them.

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