SS/GT 69 Mustang / Cleveland

Dave Noll · 02-08-2014, 06:12 PM

If your engine has either of these heads ... D1AE-GA, D0AE-N ...on it you could build the 71 330 hp motor. Big mechanical cam, almost 12:1 compression, yes the 780 carb, the ALTERNATE alum manifold that everybody but the Ford guy's dislike, proven screamer.

bnsfmachinist · 02-08-2014, 06:51 PM

Looks like if I go for the 324 (GT FACTOR) 351C I'm in GT/E or F...thats if I'm figuring right. still not 100% sure.

Dave Noll · 02-08-2014, 09:02 PM

Not sure about the GT thing. The 324 HP motor has less compression & a smaller hyd. cam. All else the same. 16 rated HP difference between the 2. I like the looks of the 330/340 hp combo myself.

Bill Harris · 02-08-2014, 09:24 PM

With the D1AE-GA heads you can only run it as a '71 351/285 factored at 324 for GT or 351/330 (the Boss 351 engine) factored at 340 for GT. The Boss engine can only be run with a stick. The Boss engine could have some advantages if it were running in stock, although I can't recall if anyone that has done it. In S/S the advantages are less since you are not restricted in cam/valvetrain or intake manifold so the only thing you lose is a little compression, almost certainly not worth the 16 HP factor difference . You can use the 780 Holley/Quickfuel carb on either.

The code on the block is irrelevant. If it is a Cleveland block, its good to go.

If you go with the 351/285/324 these are the classes you can run (assuming by "Coupe" you are talking about a notch, not a fastback body).

Click on the pix to make it larger/readable. GT/DA to GT/FA are likely your best bet depending on how much weight you can get out of it. 3078 lbs without driver is pretty light for a '69 Mustang.

Dave Noll · 02-08-2014, 11:42 PM

CRAP, Super Stock. Sorry. Started new medications today so I'm a little fuzzy.

Got stock on the mind. sorry.

fred goodwin · 02-09-2014, 05:25 PM

SS/GT 69 mustang? I heard about this and was not sure if it was true! can you run an early body with a late year motor in SS/GT? like a 305 in a 1968 Camaro?

Bill Harris · 02-09-2014, 05:42 PM

Most definitely. You could put an LS engine in a 68 Camaro if you wanted. Super Stock rules though, not Stock in NHRA. IHRA has a Stock GT class too but then you are limited to their events.

fred goodwin · 02-09-2014, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Harris

Most definitely. You could put an LS engine in a 68 Camaro if you wanted. Super Stock rules though, not Stock in NHRA. IHRA has a Stock GT class too but then you are limited to their events.

thanks bill, that is awesome,can you use a buick,pontiac,olds motor as well in a chevy? super stock legal motors of course.

02-08-2014, 06:12 PM	#1
Dave Noll Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Div. 6, Eastern, WA Posts: 710 Likes: 2,671 Liked 240 Times in 112 Posts	Re: SS/GT 69 Mustang / Cleveland If your engine has either of these heads ... D1AE-GA, D0AE-N ...on it you could build the 71 330 hp motor. Big mechanical cam, almost 12:1 compression, yes the 780 carb, the ALTERNATE alum manifold that everybody but the Ford guy's dislike, proven screamer. __________________ Dave Noll, EF/S ,?/SA 6526

02-08-2014, 06:51 PM	#2
bnsfmachinist Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 15 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: SS/GT 69 Mustang / Cleveland Looks like if I go for the 324 (GT FACTOR) 351C I'm in GT/E or F...thats if I'm figuring right. still not 100% sure.

02-08-2014, 09:02 PM	#3
Dave Noll Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Div. 6, Eastern, WA Posts: 710 Likes: 2,671 Liked 240 Times in 112 Posts	Re: SS/GT 69 Mustang / Cleveland Not sure about the GT thing. The 324 HP motor has less compression & a smaller hyd. cam. All else the same. 16 rated HP difference between the 2. I like the looks of the 330/340 hp combo myself. __________________ Dave Noll, EF/S ,?/SA 6526

02-08-2014, 09:24 PM	#4
Bill Harris Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ooltewah, TN Posts: 421 Likes: 13 Liked 26 Times in 13 Posts	Re: SS/GT 69 Mustang / Cleveland With the D1AE-GA heads you can only run it as a '71 351/285 factored at 324 for GT or 351/330 (the Boss 351 engine) factored at 340 for GT. The Boss engine can only be run with a stick. The Boss engine could have some advantages if it were running in stock, although I can't recall if anyone that has done it. In S/S the advantages are less since you are not restricted in cam/valvetrain or intake manifold so the only thing you lose is a little compression, almost certainly not worth the 16 HP factor difference . You can use the 780 Holley/Quickfuel carb on either. The code on the block is irrelevant. If it is a Cleveland block, its good to go. If you go with the 351/285/324 these are the classes you can run (assuming by "Coupe" you are talking about a notch, not a fastback body). Click on the pix to make it larger/readable. GT/DA to GT/FA are likely your best bet depending on how much weight you can get out of it. 3078 lbs without driver is pretty light for a '69 Mustang. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Bill Harris ex 2172 STK ex 2272 S/S Last edited by Bill Harris; 02-08-2014 at 09:26 PM. Reason: f'ed up the math

02-08-2014, 11:42 PM	#5
Dave Noll Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Div. 6, Eastern, WA Posts: 710 Likes: 2,671 Liked 240 Times in 112 Posts	Re: SS/GT 69 Mustang / Cleveland CRAP, Super Stock. Sorry. Started new medications today so I'm a little fuzzy. Got stock on the mind. sorry. __________________ Dave Noll, EF/S ,?/SA 6526

02-09-2014, 05:25 PM	#6
fred goodwin Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: shopville kentucky Posts: 80 Likes: 208 Liked 35 Times in 11 Posts	Re: SS/GT 69 Mustang / Cleveland SS/GT 69 mustang? I heard about this and was not sure if it was true! can you run an early body with a late year motor in SS/GT? like a 305 in a 1968 Camaro?

02-09-2014, 05:42 PM	#7
Bill Harris Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ooltewah, TN Posts: 421 Likes: 13 Liked 26 Times in 13 Posts	Re: SS/GT 69 Mustang / Cleveland Most definitely. You could put an LS engine in a 68 Camaro if you wanted. Super Stock rules though, not Stock in NHRA. IHRA has a Stock GT class too but then you are limited to their events. __________________ Bill Harris ex 2172 STK ex 2272 S/S

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