Cheating [2-step And Buttons]

Ryan,

You say that two steps have been around for 17 years, I don't know if its been that long? I do know, they didn't ask us about it then either.... It's their playground and their rules... Dave...1033/stock

[Michael Beard]

TG writes >> are racing stock??? SSS??? or both???

Just Stock. I ran my SSS number at Pageland Dragway, and missed the title by one round. Won the next-to-last points race to pull within one round, then got busted 1st round round at the last points race... bought back and won the race. "Oops!" I won the Footbrake championship at Rockingham, so I'll still have the 'regular' Race of Champions at the Div. 9 Bracket Finals.

Ryan writes >> You race IHRA. This rule would have no affect on your racing whatsoever.

It does, since IHRA typically follows NHRA's lead on things. (except the AHFS!) LOL Although, since I footbrake, too, it doesn't affect *my* driving style either way.

Oh, BTW, we're up to THREE footbrakers that have won championships in delay box classes this year now - Billy Kirpins, Jr. at Lebanon Valley, Chris Plott at Mooresville, and Tim Davis at Fayetteville. I suppose one could argue that they have proven that delay boxes are not an advantage, and thus should be permitted in all classes.

Dave writes >> two steps have been around for 17 years, I don't know if its been that long? I do know, they didn't ask us about it then either....

Hm! Didn't know that.

Quite honestly, I don't care *that* much either way. It's simple preference, and I enjoy the intellectual discussion. I *am* surprised that Stock is such an anomoly. It's the only class in the country that permits a two-step, and two-step only. Everything else is either pure Footbrake, No-Box (ala Super Stock), or Box. I'm surprised that two-step proponents don't just ask for a transbrake to go with it.

[tgriffith]

Everyone should have that choice to pick and choose how they want to race and what they want to use.
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I wish that were so,,,,I could get Nhra to let me run a toilet on a stocker,,,,with my delay box a matty controler,,,,LOL

no sense arguing over this,,,Ive deleted most of my post and this will be the last on this topic,,,,,ONLY reason they are still legal is because some U/SA stocker isnt wearing the field out using one,,,,,Most 2 car teams want to keep them cause its an easy transition from stock to SS or from the .90`s classes ,,,,
alot of racers just dont understand what its doing......the results dont lie,,,,,RT`s in the last 2 years have gotten tremendously better,,,,but only in the faster cars,,,,,slower cars have stayed about the same,,,,,,its not a fluke,,,its because of the 2 steps/buttons,,,,,,just for the record,,, There is a way that slow cars can utilize that advantages of flash racing off the 2step/button,,,its not popular with the couple slow car drivers that I know,,,but it can be done,,,,I guess it all boils down the the racer and his prioritys,,,,,,,,,Ive talk to quite a few and the surprisingly enough,,,,,,most arent that interested in winning,,,,they just want to go fast against the index,,,,I cant conceive this idea, but to each his own, I guess,,,,,,Ive jsut always been in a position,,,if I dont win,,,I cant race,,,,,,,,,,just never went to the races as a "vacation" like a large majority of stock racers do,,,Maybe I take racing too serious,,,,But I found out a long time ago,,,,you treat it like a job,,,,you will end up with a payday

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by tgriffith

Everyone should have that choice to pick and choose how they want to race and what they want to use.
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I wish that were so,,,,I could get Nhra to let me run a toilet on a stocker,,,,with my delay box a matty controler,,,,LOL

no sense arguing over this,,,Ive deleted most of my post and this will be the last on this topic,,,,,ONLY reason they are still legal is because some U/SA stocker isnt wearing the field out using one,,,,,Most 2 car teams want to keep them cause its an easy transition from stock to SS or from the .90`s classes ,,,,
alot of racers just dont understand what its doing......the results dont lie,,,,,RT`s in the last 2 years have gotten tremendously better,,,,but only in the faster cars,,,,,slower cars have stayed about the same,,,,,,its not a fluke,,,its because of the 2 steps/buttons,,,,,,just for the record,,, There is a way that slow cars can utilize that advantages of flash racing off the 2step/button,,,its not popular with the couple slow car drivers that I know,,,but it can be done,,,,I guess it all boils down the the racer and his prioritys,,,,,,,,,Ive talk to quite a few and the surprisingly enough,,,,,,most arent that interested in winning,,,,they just want to go fast against the index,,,,I cant conceive this idea, but to each his own, I guess,,,,,,Ive jsut always been in a position,,,if I dont win,,,I cant race,,,,,,,,,,just never went to the races as a "vacation" like a large majority of stock racers do,,,Maybe I take racing too serious,,,,But I found out a long time ago,,,,you treat it like a job,,,,you will end up with a payday

Seems like a prety good summary on the subject!